Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

nas.sr

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

651–657 of 657 posts

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#651

Post by reirob »

matz1 wrote: post #337
nightnight wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dear tsanummy, help us to find the irony in my post or better the message in your post. So, what's your point? I'd love to know what you are talking about. Just to give another example: Imagine all countries in the world had the same language and people could move freely: You had massive and full competition between all nations/cities/economies for the best people and competition is good. Nobody is locked-in because…

If suddenly all countries had the same language i bet overtime, they will change and gradually evolve into multiple language.

Interesting thought, and looking at how many Romance languages evolved from Latin in the past, there might be something to it. At the same time there are languages that managed to re-unite the different dialects, at least in education and literature, I am thinking about the Hochdeutsch for German [1]. So we have at least a counter example. Would be interesting to know what are the factors that lead for similar languages/dialects to become one or the opposite.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochdeutsch

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#652

Post by detuur »

lloeki wrote: post #182
detuur wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> binary source format Easily the single most diabolical thing I've heard all week.

Not even sure it's actually encrypted as much as it's a memory dump, old skool .doc style. > diabolical You have no idea. I've worked with devs using it (and had to debug their code more often than not): the thing is hell, through and through, from the stdlib itself (buggy as fsck[0], terribly leaky abstractions[1], ridiculously contrived[2]) to the IDE to the concepts (worse than VB, you store procedures in windows…

This reminds me of a friend of mine, who used to work at a company that supplied financial analytics software.

The "software" was MS Excel workbooks. C-level execs love Excel, and they love interactive worksheets even more. The workbooks my friend made were huge, and had immense amounts of functionality. And this was all done without using VBA. It all had to be done in pure Excel functions. This guy had obvious programming talent as he rose through the ranks very quickly, but he never was allowed to program in anything outside of Excel, anything that resembled an actual programming language. He eventually left that career (and the very good money he made in it) for an entirely different calling. He's now finally experimenting with more normal languages, like Java, in his free time.

More on-topic, I feel so sorry for the French developer scene that you've got a monster like windev holding down an entire generation of what could be promising devs.

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#653

Post by [deleted] »

anonymfus wrote: post #400
johnisgood wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something about non-English comments in source code is really off-putting. That, and if you generally do want people to understand, then you should use English. If that does not matter to you, or someone else, then do not.

> Something about non-English comments in source code is really off-putting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe

[deleted]

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#654

Post by thbr99 »

hypacrosaurus wrote: post #440
thbr99 wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If given an opportunity, the French language police of Québec would have adopted and enforced it in Québec.

« the French language police of Québec » = the institution who defines the institutionnal use of the official language in the state, like all countries in the world do. France have almost the same laws as Law 101.

Heard of 'pastagate' ?

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#655

Post by Animats »

hechang1997 wrote: post #320
Animats wrote: post #3

Oh, it's just an art project. We haven't yet seen a serious non-English programming language. One would have expected one in Chinese or Japanese by now. There was COBOL in French, once, with French words and word order, but it never caught on, even in Francophone countries.

There's a “易(Easy)语言(Language)” in China which advertised itself as epitome of "Chinese Programming". It is basically a re-skinned C with a visual programming tookit, which does has its merit as visual programming tools were rare during that time. However, it only catched on in the "domain" of cheat engines and trainers, and eventually died out.

The support forum page for it links to a parked domain, so it probably isn't very active.

Re: قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

#656

Post by khaled »

coldtea wrote: post #152

> Code is written entirely in Arabic, highlighting cultural biases of computer science and challenging the assumptions we make about programming. There are lots of "cultural biases in computer science" -- in UI, neural network training, encodings, terms of service, etc. Of all of them, this is the least helpful, and the least important. It's like doing math in local notation, or translating latin/greek terms doctors…

> It's like doing math in local notation

Math is taught in Arabic, using Arabic notation and written from right to left in many Arabic countries. That is basically the only form of math I’m personally familiar with.

Post reply on HN