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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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So far I've noticed: 1> New Top Gun Movie removed a patch on Tom Cruises jacketdue to Chinese funding. 2> NBA issued an apology for an owner showing Hong Kong support and China stopped NBA broadcasts. 3> Blizzard 4> Apple Hides Taiwans Flag emoji Sounds trivial but they're the tip of the iceberg for censoring freedom of expression based on a DICTATOR's whim. Xi "Winnie The Poop" is an autocrat and once he sealed his…

CCTV just banned the NBA because Adam Silver defended Morey's free speech and refused to punish him.

”We’re strongly dissatisfied and oppose Adam Silver’s claim to support Morey’s right to freedom of expression,” CCTV said in a statement. “We believe that any remarks that challenge national sovereignty and social stability are not within the scope of freedom of speech.”

Chinese state television clearly stating that the organization (and government that manages it) does not hold to the principles China agreed to when they voted in favor of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which reads:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/10/8/20904593/nba-china-co...

https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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> Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you > into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or > otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from > Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in > addition to other remedies which may be provided for under the > Handbook and Blizzard’s Website Terms. This is why "cancel culture" needs to en…

> This is why "cancel culture" needs to end, companies simply shouldn't be getting involved in the speech of an individual.

Wait, are you saying there’s nothing anyone could say to you that would make you not want to work with them?

As long as it’s “just words” you welcome it in your workplace?

There’s no level of verbal abuse that you consider grounds for dismissal?

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Somehow I am sure if he protested against US government, or climate change, or plastic straws, or patriarchy, or use of wrong pronouns, or anything else we've seen protested against by celebrities lately, Blizzard would probably celebrate it and publish a press release about how brave he (and by extension, they) are.

The cowardice and hypocrisy of US corporations, especially on the background of them pretending to uphold higher values, is astonishing. Good thing it's being revealed so clearly and overwhelmingly. They only understand money - so whoever ever paid them money or intends to - should take note.

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I agree 100% that we should boycott and sanction, however doubt there will be enough people who will, and enough people who care. And I don't blame most for not caring, there are more things to worry about than we have time available. Maybe 1% of hearthstone players will see your comment. Similarly, there are other entities which need to be sanctioned, which you and me won't find out about as it's outside of our area…

>Which makes me believe we need some kind of trusted "morality authority", which would process information similar to this and make informed decisions who to boycott, how and when. Less informed would be able to make an impact without having to do research (which not everyone would do equally well) Isn't that effectively the government's job in a democracy? They're elected (directly or indirectly) to enact the will o…

It should be the job of the government to follow and not lead here both from theie source of legitimacy and how abusable said position would be. Even if they follow there should fundamentally be constraints to protect the rights of the minority for otherwise it follows the "populist" demagog to mob rule to dictatorship progression.

A moral authority implies leadership - that others would trust and defer to for moral judgment.

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What factories? Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India. 5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around. If we elevate authoritarian countries to our level, democracy may be in for a rough future. We should be learning a lot from the China situation. Modern China proves that authoritarian capitalism works and that you don't need freedom or liberty for your citizens. And that's incredibly scary. Imagine if…

China isn't really capitalist. Industrialized sounds like a better adjective to me.

If it was really capitalist, it would have stopped being cheap long ago.

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Interesting how an incidence in gaming garner more eye balls on the topic of Hong Kong politics than whole month combined. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Good for the people of Hong Kong. The topic of Hong Kong didn't struck me as sensational/desperate as it deserves until a Hong Kong friend send me this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yXTHODE24Q Am moved by the clip, especial…

Iraq needs some attention... Protests have been going on for a week now, 100+ protesters have been killed, thousands hurt.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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American video games? What about American companies that have factories there or other presence there? Hello Apple! Hello Tesla! Hello Google. Blizzard has been bending over backwards for some time with regards to China but this is the first time I remember them taking action against someone who does not work for them. the simple matter is, you cannot pick and choose, all the companies must be shamed into not bending…

Google is blocked in China for refusing to censor what China wants. Bing works in China.

And it brings them absolutely no good really, either in good will or cash, which is a good lesson for others not to take the same stand if the country they hail from doesn't do it as a whole.

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It happened during an event sponsored by Blizzard. Player may have their opinions but they are paid (through prizes) and broadcast by Blizzard. It means that Blizzard gets to set the rules about what can be said. And in case it wasn't obvious, it is explicitly stated in the competition rules. There is a difference between tolerating Blitzchung's opinions and letting him hijack an interview to make a political stateme…

Doubt that would be justiciable in most countries, other wise you could sack a Premier league player because they supported a particular political party. Gaming companies cant set up pro leagues and treat players as if it was still football in the 1950's

The NFL suspended Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the national anthem. That's mild compared hijacking a speech with a gasmask and calling for revolution.

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Well thank God then that wasn't my argument. What I'm saying is, China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship (edit: in the West).

> China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship No, it’s using good old greater-pile-of-money diplomacy. SJWs aren’t running around rooting for Xi. This is a company with major economic exposure to China bowing to censors’ wills.

"SJWs" dont have to root for China for this to be an effective strategy... I think you're missing the point.
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