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It’s almost 2020, not 1940. We have major cities that are majority nonwhite. We have entire statewide school districts that are mostly nonwhite. We have huge metropolitan areas that are mostly nonwhite. You can walk into an expensive luxury apartment complex in an immigrant heavy city and find tons of nonwhite people.
The Little Rock Nine was 1957. What do you believe happened to all those people who protested and threatened violence against those children? What do you think they taught their children? The idea that we have somehow magically eradicated racism over the course of a single generation astounds me. Seriously, it's almost 2020. You should get how close to the 1960s that is.
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It's not fair to hurt people just because you think others have been hurt. You're just furthering the abuse. Many white people have been denied housing, education, and jobs because of their skin. You can't solve ignorance with more ignorance. You're literally talking about ruining peoples' lives because of your racism.
> Many white people have been denied housing, education, and jobs because of their skin. [ citation needed ]
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geography isn't a protected class. it's not a class at all. it's a set of circumstances. your skin color and the privileges or liabilities incurred are inescapable.
> geography isn't a protected class Frequently it is. Many laws specifically protect "national origin".
What laws? The US Constitution provides significantly greater protections to US Citizens than foreign nationals, as many of rights are not extended to non-citizens.
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Pick two random Indians and there's about a one in three chance that they won't even be able to talk to each other due to not sharing any common languages. The US has nothing remotely close to India's level of diversity.
Considering the US selects for English-speaking immigrants, and the fact that English is taught as a second language in a lot of the world, I don't think that's a valid way to measure "diversity".
Skin color? India has the whole spectrum from dark brown to people who could pass for southern European.
Religion? India has a huge variety.
Economic? Everything from some of the poorest people in the world to multi-billionaires.
What percentage of the population's ancestors has been enslaved by other parts of the population's ancestors? Still very high.
Please explain how you are measuring diversity if you want to make the outrageous claim that India is not diverse.
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When I'm in the United States, about half the time, I pray with a Chabad Minyan. About half the people there are not Ashkenazi, despite Chabad's Ashkenazi origins. We have Persians, Yeminites, Ethiopians, Syrians, etc, and people whose families have lived in greater Israel area for generations.
If you don't mind my asking, where in the US is this Chabad minyan?
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Considering the US selects for English-speaking immigrants, and the fact that English is taught as a second language in a lot of the world, I don't think that's a valid way to measure "diversity".
How would you prefer to measure it then? Any reasonable measure of diversity you come up with, India will score highly on. Skin color? India has the whole spectrum from dark brown to people who could pass for southern European. Religion? India has a huge variety. Economic? Everything from some of the poorest people in the world to multi-billionaires. What percentage of the population's ancestors has been enslaved by…
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It’s almost 2020, not 1940. We have major cities that are majority nonwhite. We have entire statewide school districts that are mostly nonwhite. We have huge metropolitan areas that are mostly nonwhite. You can walk into an expensive luxury apartment complex in an immigrant heavy city and find tons of nonwhite people.
The Little Rock Nine was 1957. What do you believe happened to all those people who protested and threatened violence against those children? What do you think they taught their children? The idea that we have somehow magically eradicated racism over the course of a single generation astounds me. Seriously, it's almost 2020. You should get how close to the 1960s that is.
And yet there is no trace of it now. I doubt you have set foot in Arkansas, because your implication that the attitudes haven't changed much is grossly inaccurate.
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Yes, a lot in terms of cultural differences. So Asian-americans are being discriminated against because their parents make them study hard?
My parents were really supportive of me in school; someone whose parents weren't as supportive of them, who got the same grades as me is probably a better student and will be more sucessful with a given set of resources than I would since they overcame more adversity than I did. It's a little crude to use race maybe, but it probably isn't a terrible approximation. What would be great is if people had to disclose any…
Isn't that contradictory? Are you saying that african americans achieve the same as asian americans even though they did not have to study hard? Then why would affirmative action be necessary?
Affirmative action is applied to upgrade the scores of candidates with lower scores if they are of a disadvantaged minority. So, an asian american with higher scores (and who worked harder) will miss out on an opportunity to an african american with lower scores (who did not work as hard).
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But why? why can't it be an option? question is, there's only a few things in life you can control, SAT and grade being one of them. How do you work on something that you have no control over?
> But why? why can't it be an option? Because universities have decided (rightly, IMO) that just taking the applicants with the top GPA and SAT scores and no other criteria doesn't give a very vibrant student body. Chances are a school like Harvard already has more "top student" scorers in this fashion than they can accept. > How do you work on something that you have no control over? "God, grant me the serenity to a…
I'm not saying the school has to take everyone, but we're focusing on discrimination here. How is that not discrimination? "We're not letting you in because of the intangibles, what is that intangible? We can't tell you."
How do you even measure vibrancy? So if a student excels academically that means he/she is not vibrant?