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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I'm currently based in Toronto 2012 - small business owner - 60k AED / yr (no taxes) - built Wordpress websites in my spare time 2013 - technical cloud marketing intern - 60k / yr CAD - FAANGish company 2013 - contractor - 30k / yr CAD - Engineering consultancy 2014 - Software Dev Fullstack - 22k / yr CAD - early stage startup 2015 - Lead Software Dev Fullstack / Architect + DevOps - 55k / yr CAD - very early stage s…

I too am in Toronto and this is my career progression: 2015 - Linux System Administrator - $65k - large company 2016 - DevOps Engineer - $79k - startup 2017 - DevOps Engineer - $95k - large company 2018 - Site Reliability Engineer - $115k - medium company

2015 - $110K CAD - Senior Developer

2018 - $120K CAD - Senior DevOps Engineer (+ $12K bonus).

7 years experience as of today

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Interesting that it's similar (lower if adjusted for inflation) level of compensation since 2002. Do you feel that your specialty is plateauing in terms of pay? What would it take for another compensation increase?

gross comp in 2002 adjusted for inflation would be ~$285K, vs this year @ ~$340K, but big difference is net — as a consultant, health & life insurance, travel to global conferences (an indulgence of mine), employer taxes and 401K/SEP IRA are considerable. I priced out a comparable open market family healthcare plan before taking the role I'm in now (large but youngish tech company you'd recognize) and it was shocking…

*dont look at it as plateauing

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Low cost of living checking in, primarily due to food and housing, which are ~50% and ~15-20% of the Bay Area respectively. A Started professional software dev in 2010 after freelancing for $45, raise/promotion to low $50's before getting a new job for $72, raise/promotion to high $70's before getting a new job for $98, promotion to $115 + 10% discretionary/performance bonus. All web development to start, last promot…

If you think you’re better than average, especially top quintile, then moving to a big city will offer so many more opportunities it will more than make up for the temporary pay cut or hit to quality of life. Of course this all depends on your goals and situation such as having dependents and age. But it could pay off big by giving you more chances to network, start businesses, meet a high income earning spouse, etc.

I do think I'm better than average (most people do, don't they?) but probably not top quintile. One thing stopping me from doing it is that I don't have any desire to start or run a business. I'd do a CTO role somewhere with profitability or funding, but not as a co-founder. Just not an interest of mine at this point in my life, 32, single no dependents.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Montevideo, Uruguay (most expensive country in South America): 2004-2008 - Programmer at Software Factory - U$ 10.000 / year 2008-2016 - Functional Analyst (developer really) at non-software company - U$ 30.000 2016-2018 - Programmer Analyst (still developer + pm) at U.S. company's outsourcing center - U$ 55.000 Mis-spent a lot of money on an MBA (30k) which didn't bring me any additional income, and didn't save anyt…

Santiago Chile, gross USD/yr

2009-2010: software factory 18k

2011-2014: small startup, started at 25k, left at 40k (+ equity worth 0)

2015-2016: FAANG 75k (incl. bonuses)

2017-2018: medium-sized startup 100k

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Texas:

01-03: McDonald's $11,000 - $31,000

04-10 USAF $38,000 for a while, then lower for a long time, ultimately $42,000 I think

10-13 Fortune 500 Gov Contracter, $60,000 - $65,000 (rent 800-900, then 30 yr mortgage + taxes $1500 for ~2000 sqft 10 acres)

13-15 Fortune 500 Gov Contractor, $66,000 - $69,000

in 14: Graduated with B.S. in C.S. from crappy military-heavy college

15-17 Same job, different contractor $69,000 - $72,000

17-18 Same job, different contractor $82,000

I work in IT, occasional programming duties. All jobs strictly limited to 40 hrs/week or 80 hrs/pay period. USAF was even 40 hrs.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I wish we could offer prestige in these price / number comparison, not only in different currency, but also the tax rate and incentives. Example in US large part of your paid isn't really "Salary", but bonus package. And if we could at least includes median rent and price of a Big Mac. In location A where you earn 200K a year but requires you to paid 100K in tax, and spend 50K on rental, versus location B where you p…

At least in the US, the state tax is always relatively small (CA top marginal 13.3%, but effective CA tax will be more around 8-9%). Remember, if you make 200K, you pay as much tax on the first 100K as a person who makes only 100K, you pay more for the second 100K, but that's like icing on the cake.

13.3% Tax? That low? Are there anything other than State Tax?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that it's similar (lower if adjusted for inflation) level of compensation since 2002. Do you feel that your specialty is plateauing in terms of pay? What would it take for another compensation increase?

gross comp in 2002 adjusted for inflation would be ~$285K, vs this year @ ~$340K, but big difference is net — as a consultant, health & life insurance, travel to global conferences (an indulgence of mine), employer taxes and 401K/SEP IRA are considerable. I priced out a comparable open market family healthcare plan before taking the role I'm in now (large but youngish tech company you'd recognize) and it was shocking…

Thanks for the detailed info.

I was only glancing and saw the base pay.. Yes I agree contractor vs FTE has a lot of compensation differential beyond base pay.

Looks like you have a sweet setup right now. Congrats

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Nice money at those big American companies. In Australia, you have to become a plumber to get to those levels :-)

They're high but not enormously so, IME if you're in Sydney or Melbourne and are competent you can be making $110k+ with 5 years experience. Even more if you're skilled in something that's in demand (data science and DevOps ATM). From what I've seen I actually think we are lucky to have the highest dev salaries outside of the US. Which is kind of suprisingly in a way, because we don't have too many large internet com…

Possibly because Australians can get an E-3 visa easily? That would mean AU salaries would have to rise to stop them simply jumping on the next plane to S.F.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I started at $21k in 2010 as a programmer * 2000-2005 USMC * 2005-2008 various (Unable to decide what I wanted to do when I grew up) * 2008-2010 A.A.S. Computer Information Systems * 2010-2015 Backend Developer, 21k => 50k * 2015-2016 DevOps/System Admin, State of Delaware 60k => 68k * 2016-2017 Backend .Net Developer, small company 70k => 85k * 2017-Pres Backend .Net Developer, major bank 100k I live in Delaware - i…

Nice to see another devil dog in the coding world. Don’t see it that often... Salaries are great, but my best job is still my most underpaid: USMC S/F

Agreed. But, unfortunately, I followed the standard Marine path: Married, deployed, divorced in 5 years. Thankfully, no kids.

I almost went back in in 2007... but, basically, had to choose between that path and my current fiance (of 11 years).

I've always had a good aptitude for computers - 95 on asvab and I was a Radio Repairman.

Got out in 2005 and got my education thanks to the GI Bill.

I do miss it - the best decision I made in my life - but am also happy where I'm at.

Chris

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