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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by fuck_google »

xiaoma wrote: post #562
throwawaymaroon wrote: post #441

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That's a terrible example. Remember Google+ accounts and Youtube?

I still haven't gotten any assistance from Google after losing my YouTube account when my f#@!ing plus account (which I didn't even want) spawned another account from the gmail address I'd signed up before Google bought them. Plus was the real turning point where I went from loving Google to tolerating them.

"Most people love taking it up the ass according to our A/B testing. We are sorry you are not one of us." -Googler

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by lostlogin »

keypress wrote: post #645
rangibaby wrote: post #636

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Google tried to mess with Youtube but mainly gave up after it was a massive disaster.

And the legacy seems to be a comment system that's impossibly hard to follow. Reply button implies some kind of threads but I just see disjointed fragmented comments that just end up in more confusion, and more worthless comments. I wish they'd pull comments from besides videos.

Up vote and down vote. Suddenly the world would be a better place. Is there anyone anywhere that thinks the comments add anything?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by mrmondo »

Such a shame, I wonder how long it will take Trello to turn into heavy 'enterprise' bloatware like the rest of said companies products. There are a few good open source alternatives out there now so I'll personally move to one of those.

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Post by zoom6628 »

Very happy for the folks at Trello. Great outcome for a great tool. Seems lots of JIRA-haters in the comments but lets get back and look at this event. The folks at Fog Creek brought us FogBugz, Stackoverflow, Trello.

We should celebrate their success because its events like this that create the motivation for some of us to go create something that "stands on their shoulders" or competes with them or creates some new paradigm of how tasks can be managed. Fog Creek is almost the ultimate startup - they keep it small, do things right, stick to their craft. What is the result? Regularly bring fantastic products to the world. Anybody contemplating how to get setup and run a software startup should start by reading most/all of joelonsoftware and then the later blogs about SO and Trello.

Yes Im huge fan - because i applaud geeks that put heart and soul into their craft as well as running their business and getting great outcomes like this. Would love to see more of it.

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Post by zoom6628 »

WorldMaker wrote: post #184
rrdharan wrote: post #139

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I don't think anyone other than Facebook/Microsoft/Apple/Google can afford Slack.

...and Microsoft tried, was spurned, and built Teams and is pushing Teams and Skype to attack Slack where it lives.

They need to get Teams right before they are attacking anything except the coffee maker. I hope they do get it right cos we use s4b at work. I really want them to make that a capable product so that i dont have to use a basket of products to get communications done: yammer, s4b, email, FTP, sharepoint, internal systems (that really just need a bot to chat with instead of a app UI),....and many others.

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Post by mrmondo »

hNz wrote: post #443
inglor wrote: post #432

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I think WhatsApp and Waze are both pretty good examples of high profile acquisitions that played out this way. I also feel like (and I realize many disagree) that YouTube largely kept its "feel" and didn't turn into Google Videos 2.0. Of course there are plenty of examples of exactly what you describe. I feel the same way about Java, Hudson (lol) and plenty of other acquisitions.

As much as you feel the same about Java and Hudson... what about Virtual Box. All of them are Oracle now and Virtual Box is pretty good?

Virtualbox... good? I don't think so at all, it's networking and disk IO performance is horrendous, as much as I dislike VMware - Fusion is miles ahead of VirtualBox in all ways IMO except price. But now we have Xhyve & friends which is truly fantastic.

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Post by jjking »

Jira is by far the worst and most convoluted application that I have used. It's slow a d very horribly designed that I even wonder if they did tgat on purpose. Heck you have to shell out $3000 for your team just to learn how to use it.

Hopefully they'll leave Trello as it is.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by jjking »

Jira is by far the worst and most convoluted application that I have used. It's slow a d very horribly designed that I even wonder if they did tgat on purpose. Heck you have to shell out $3000 for your team just to learn how to use it.

Hopefully they'll leave Trello as it is.

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Post by eksemplar »

rkrzr wrote: post #19

Trello has apparently about 19 million users. And I would bet that the majority of them are not the typical target audience of Atlassian products (i.e. software development teams). So I wonder if they are mostly aquiring the user base here in order to expand their potential market?

I doubt they can. I work in public digitization from an it-architecture and programming background, and because municipaliies work closely together on a national plan I interact with quite a few teams.

I've yet to see a project manager or anyone outside hardcore development get anything positive out of at Asian products.

Their tools typically complicates everything to the point of slowing production by as much as 150% compared to projects where management is done with post it's on a board and physical meetings... I know because we did the business case, which today means we're actively avoiding companies that want to tunnel projects into things like JIRA.

I get that atlassian produce excellent tools for tracking development time so companies can bill me more precisely. Unfortunately the side effect is that everything gets produced slower, more expensively and ends up confusing the shit out of our project managers.

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Post by fuck_google »

allover wrote: post #514
tiglionabbit wrote: post #397

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Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who likes Atlassian and forces the hire of an Atlassian shill to configure Atlassian products full time, but it never becomes any good. They pry us off our existing issue tracker and wiki (github, trac) and force us to use that awful content-editable-based wiki that d…

This probably doesn't need saying, but seems you work in toxic teams. Your first paragraph suggests a ton of blame is being thrown about. If you work at a company like that, get out. (That of course, or you suck at empathy for your managers, and you're the problem). The place I work at, Jira is used pretty reasonably. Our devs, in 2 different teams have setup the workflows to show our progress and deployment flow in…

Good PM works for the team, not vice versa.
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