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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by ben010783 »

yock wrote: post #240
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

The bulge isn't as noticeable when you have the phone in a case. I think they just considered the 3.5mm jack a waste of space since it's primary use was doing something you could do with the lightning port.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by relaytheurgency »

chetanahuja wrote: post #613
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

"If only iOS devices were made by other manufacturers" This seems backwards. Only reason to buy Apple phones is the superior hardware. As far as the OS goes, Android (and the google services backing it... especially Google Now) have completely surpassed it and continue to increase the gap every day. Increasingly, Google is treating the mobile devices as just a conduit to access their cloud services (including their f…

Android doesn't have three-clicks on headphones for going back one track. That's not superior by any means. I use both (Android for personal, iPhone for work) and I definitely prefer iOS. Android is cool, I can do a lot with it, but it's always buggier.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by consto »

yock wrote: post #240
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

A headphone jack can't make much of a difference, I have a Galaxy S5 which is rated IP67, the same rating as the iPhone 7. It has a flap that covers the microUSB connector, the back panel has rubber seams, yet the headphone jack looks like any other.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by urda »

kelseydh wrote: post #632
heartbreak wrote: post #318

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I'm also really excited about this. A lot of people have been distracted by a single issue and are missing some really nice features of this phone. Beyond the secure enclave, if the haptic home button is anything like the new trackpads, it'll be an amazing feature. One less moving part to break. And the cameras...wow. Finally decent depth of field on the camera that's always in my pocket.

Verge is giving the haptic buttons a big thumbs down: "Another thing I tried: the new home button, which uses a "taptic engine" to give you physical feedback when you press it — it's pressure sensitive too, so it can tell if you really mean to press it or just tap it. And it's awful. On a MacBook trackpad, you get this uncanny feeling that you're actually hitting a button. On the iPhone, the whole bottom of the phone…

The Verge is not a source to be taken seriously on any Apple matters. Remember, this is a news website who's Editor-In-Chief had a temper tantrum on twitter after being called out on his poor criticism [1].

[1] http://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet...

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by pfranz »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I think it would have been a better transition if they had shipped the AirPods a year before removing it from the phone. Many people have been using bluetooth headphones for awhile, but Apple didn't offer anything until today.

Let's say I go with AirPods. The presentation just showed initial pairing and focused on the phone. It seems to work with iphone 5 and forward, which is great, but does it work with my older laptop? What about non-Apple bluetooth devices? It would be also be a nice little perk to have it work with AppleTV for watching TV at night. Traditional bluetooth sucks when switching between devices (in addition to pairing). It would be nice if they could prove to everyone that was a solved problem (and prove the lighting earpods aren't just a stopgap) before ditching the headphone jack.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by mulmen »

seanalltogether wrote: post #358
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

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I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

Now we have iPhone headphones and MacBook headphones, even worse.

The AirPods are Bluetooth so they should work with the MacBook too.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by reitanqild »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #645
_bojan wrote: post #223

Removed audio jack and still not waterproof.

I doubt ANY smartphone is waterproof. The new iPhone 7, however _is_ water _resistant_[0]. [0] Which is what you probably mean.

Mine is. IP something something. Can shoot photos under water.

Just because iPhone isn't doesn't mean no other can be ;-)

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by jonlucc »

sxcurry wrote: post #608

Well, it's official - Apple has failed again! Doomed I tell you, doomed! Forget the performance enhancements, better battery life, fantastic new cameras, etc, etc - I have to use a new earbud cable. Plus, Jony Ive is going around putting super glue in all the old iPhone audio jacks, so I can't even use my existing earbuds with my existing iPhone. Plus, Apple is charging me $0.00 for the adapter so that I can use my r…

You jest, but only the first adapter is free. Subsequent adapters will be $9.99.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by heartbreak »

DigitalJack wrote: post #599
heartbreak wrote: post #318

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I'm also really excited about this. A lot of people have been distracted by a single issue and are missing some really nice features of this phone. Beyond the secure enclave, if the haptic home button is anything like the new trackpads, it'll be an amazing feature. One less moving part to break. And the cameras...wow. Finally decent depth of field on the camera that's always in my pocket.

I guess this is pedantic, but clearly the haptic actuator is itself a moving part. I take your meaning though, and that there is reason to hope it will work better than the mechanical button. And even if the feedback were to fail, the button might keep working.

Well the haptics engine was already there, so I don't consider it an additional moving part.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by mintplant »

tebruno99 wrote: post #183

I'm not even upset about the headphone jack. Whatever. I'm really upset because you won't be able to do the following: 1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. 2.) Listening to music at desk and still have enough charge for the Audio+GPS for the drive home. 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up…

> No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up and plug it back in during my sleep.

Well you could get a standalone charger and a spare battery-- oh wait, no, they got rid of that too.

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