There have been a number of posts about hiring practices lately. And a lot of them contradict each other. My conclusion is, that people hire people that are similar to themselves or similar to how they would like to see themselves , and the whole hiring process, the style of interviews and coding tasks and the sources from which they hire, is based upon this model. A company founded by Stanford CS students will focus…
Most hiring processes spend gigantic amounts of effort to see how a candidate works as a member of the team, without actually having the candidate... work as a member of the team. I suspect that the reason why, is that so few engineering teams do pair programming full-time, complete with daily-or-more rotations. Pairing gives you the ability to spin somebody up rapidly enough to see how well they do on real code, and…
We only hire the trendiest
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#652"Contractors are generally not the strongest technically" Where does this come from? I actually see a contractor as someone who had experienced way more "war stories" than the guy who has been sitting in the same chair for 10/20 years. As a contractor, you are exposed to more technologies, more business sectors, different working cultures.
"Consulting" or "contracting" can refer to different kinds of work arrangements. One of these is what's called "staff augmentation." Large companies with huge teams of full-time employed software programmers will often hire contractors to fill gaps. These contractors are typically contractors-in-name-only: they work under exactly the same conditions as full-time employees but with a worse tax situation, without acces…
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#653"Contractors are generally not the strongest technically" Where does this come from? I actually see a contractor as someone who had experienced way more "war stories" than the guy who has been sitting in the same chair for 10/20 years. As a contractor, you are exposed to more technologies, more business sectors, different working cultures.
"Consulting" or "contracting" can refer to different kinds of work arrangements. One of these is what's called "staff augmentation." Large companies with huge teams of full-time employed software programmers will often hire contractors to fill gaps. These contractors are typically contractors-in-name-only: they work under exactly the same conditions as full-time employees but with a worse tax situation, without acces…
- non-technical degree from a local state school
- 35+ years old
- only have a couple of years of professional software development experience and most of it as a contractor/consultant
- not white
- most of my work is back end bug-fixing, maintenance, being in an on-call rotation, and occasionally integrating some system to some enterprise database
- buzzwords in my resume (Java, Borg, RPC, Hibernate, SQL, XML, Eclipse IDE, DAO, DTO, etc) probably scares off the young devs because apparently anything remotely related to J2EE or enterprise is evil
- my real employer is one of those Indian staffing firms
I tried one of those "dev auction" sites (Hired.com) one time. The "talent advocate" assigned to me got really excited upon hearing I am currently a contractor at the BigCo. in Mountain View, CA. She immediately put me up on auction and I guess her enthusiasm got to me since I got excited as well when I started seeing all these cool San Francisco startups viewing my profile.Then both of us were disappointed when none of the startups were interested. The auction period came and went. I had zero offers to chat on the phone despite dozens of views. She was nice enough to give me another auction round and I went for it. Only a half dozen new views on my profile that time but at least I got one phone interview out of it. The talent advocate was a bit confused by the whole thing and couldn't understand why most of the startups didn't even want to speak to me. She did offer to personally reach out to some of the startups on my behalf but I knew what happened so I politely bowed out of the auction.
So I guess I have this stigma now and I know it's only going to get tougher the older I get. I want to fix this and hopefully move to a full-time product development role before it is too late. Should I quit my job and go back to school? Join a coding bootcamp or "hacker community"? Continue working as a contractor and keep applying to startups on the side?
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#654I've found that the best predictors of a good hire are indications of the following characteristics during the interview/vetting process: - adaptability -- can this person deal with situations that are spontaneous and unplanned without losing his/her cool. - openness -- is this person instinctively scornful of new concepts/ideas or energized by the chance to be exposed to something potentially interesting. - resource…
I feel like the whole "poker face" thing has been my achilles heal. I AM guarded with a lot of my personal information; in my experience for good reason. So what do you do in your free time? FUCK YOU. If your answer isn't play softball and train for marathons, it's a way-ahead/way-behind scenario. Maybe you get lucky and interview with someone who has shared interests. > I really like movies. I watch a lot of modern…
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#655Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes: like I said, the goal was to get results back to candidates faster. The biggest complaint we'd been getting from candidates before work samples was that our process took too long. Our goal became to get the entire process done under two weeks (from its worst point, a month or two earlier, of 1.5 months, when someone finally posted an anonymous complaint to Glassdoor about us). After iterating a couple times, we…
As a candidate, I would be a little wary of this process. You're asking me to put in multiple hours of work, but you only put in 7 minutes. So the incentives are misaligned: you are incented to give these challenges to many people, even if they have a low chance of passing through. But as a candidate, I don't want to sped multiple hours if I have a low chance of passing through. This is one reason why full-day on-sit…
Think of the design world:
Potential client "A" asks multiple desperate artists to work on spec in hopes that they will get the commission.
Potential client "B" call you up and talks to you, sends you some napkin sketches and generally engages with you for an hour before asking you to do a design.
Both clients want you to do a design (test) but one clearly doesn't have any skin in the game. Assuming you're a decent designer, which client do you respond to?
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#656Re: We only hire the trendiest
#657I've found that the best predictors of a good hire are indications of the following characteristics during the interview/vetting process: - adaptability -- can this person deal with situations that are spontaneous and unplanned without losing his/her cool. - openness -- is this person instinctively scornful of new concepts/ideas or energized by the chance to be exposed to something potentially interesting. - resource…
re: poker face - I would reword this to "communication style" - does this person communicate in a style that I (and my team) can understand? Being open may depend on cultural norms, more than a "poker face." It's definitely a warning sign that Bad Things might happen in the future.
Everything in America is awesome, people are super excited to work with you, etc. British people might say "cheers" to say good bye in a shop, but Americans wish each other "have a great day!".
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#658Earlier quoted context omitted.
A big long list of relevant but subjective traits is a perfect vector for bias to creep in. Take what you call "poker face", for example - how do you measure openness? By how well they make small talk? What if they're just nervous because of the interview; what if they experience social anxiety; or what if they're just an introvert, and don't tend to be open around new people? For a less trivial example, take "resour…
I agree about the possibility of bias creeping in. On the other hand, humans are biased, so understanding how to hire for success within your own (or your organization's) biases is useful. Some people would want the opposite candidate to the one I described. Resourcefulness is more of a mindset. New parent? OK, what have you discovered about childrearing that you didn't anticipate? What will you do differently next t…
There is essentially no way to you can ask or solicit for information about their family status. Don't even go there.
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#659Earlier quoted context omitted.
> New parent? OK, what have you discovered about childrearing that you didn't anticipate? What will you do differently next time? These are extremely inappropriate questions for a job interview.
I would not ask those things, my point was that whatever a person is focused on can indicate the characteristics I mentioned. Obviously some things are personal and cannot be asked about, but may be volunteered by an applicant.
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I have had a few of these the last year or two. Never been paid. More than half of them are a waste of time. I have refused quite a few of them. The last "shouldn't take you more than two hours" exercise that I was given involved jumping through hoops to get set up on Instagrams API, only to discover that I was in a sandboxed mode, and needed my account approved before i could get anything more than metadata out). I…
Just curious -- why Instagram's API?