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Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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2 possible causes for this: 1) Apple still develops the OS using waterfall over the year. Entire sweeping changes are made only at x.0 releases that trickle down to teams that have to work around the instability all year long and there's no other approved way to get in significant changes. 2) They keep adding more apps to the core OS image that can only be updated with a full software update now. This makes delivery…

I would be skeptical about agile on something like OS development which is on a different scale from your average software project. Not saying it won't work, but I would like to see some comparisons of OS level projects that have gone agile and compare it to the waterfall approach.

Well Linux is run like that right? Releases very often

Not to mention Facebook itself... We all know FB has fallen flat many times but its never been busted for weeks at a time to my knowledge

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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that is a good point as well. I definitely agree with it. The one thing I would add is that I repeatedly get update notifications on my iPhone. Due to the increase in lockdown of all features, I am legitimately afraid to update as the: * provides security update * increases iTunes performance type descriptors, do not provide enough information about how they will fundamentally change my system. Most notably when I up…

I'm also concerned about updates. For instance, I'm currrently having to route all my iPad web traffic via Charles proxy to remove any instances of style="overflow:hidden;" in a body tag are cleared out. Why? Because in iOS 9.2 Apple released it with a bug that causes the viewport to zoom incorrectly on these web pages. This affects LibreOffice's OpenGrok, which I browsed regularly on my iPad. They still haven't fixe…

I wouldn't hold my breath. The iOS Mail app can not negotiate any TLS version above 1.0 (for IMAP, possibly SMTP too) even though it obviously supports TLS 1.2 because it sends a TLS version of 1.0 in the ClientHello message even though that same message will contain TLS 1.2 ciphers (AES-GCM).

I reported it in October and Apple's security team replied they're aware of it but it's still not fixed 2 releases later even though they probably need to fix like 1 line of code (the advertised version flag).

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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I'm also concerned about updates. For instance, I'm currrently having to route all my iPad web traffic via Charles proxy to remove any instances of style="overflow:hidden;" in a body tag are cleared out. Why? Because in iOS 9.2 Apple released it with a bug that causes the viewport to zoom incorrectly on these web pages. This affects LibreOffice's OpenGrok, which I browsed regularly on my iPad. They still haven't fixe…

I wouldn't hold my breath. The iOS Mail app can not negotiate any TLS version above 1.0 (for IMAP, possibly SMTP too) even though it obviously supports TLS 1.2 because it sends a TLS version of 1.0 in the ClientHello message even though that same message will contain TLS 1.2 ciphers (AES-GCM). I reported it in October and Apple's security team replied they're aware of it but it's still not fixed 2 releases later even…

They have actually fixed it - if you get bit with it then you can reference rdar://problem/22242515

The WebKit bug is here:

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=1528...

The patch to fix it is here:

https://bugs.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=268394&action=diff

The workaround, FWIW (thanks Simon!) is to add shrink-to-fit=no” to the meta viewport tag.

For me, it was too much effort to get OpenGrok fixed, so I just did a rewrite rule in Charles Proxy that gets rid of the style attribute.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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> The best thing for Apple to do is to re-take their

> position as a leader of software quality before it’s too

> late: consumers know that Apple’s hardware is the very

> best, but more and more they’re using apps made by Google

> and Microsoft and Facebook.

I'm not sure whether it's not too late already. I switched last fall to an Android phone using only iPhones before that. (I just didn't see the point anymore in paying 2x for an iPhone, which can't do anything better). I started using Google apps like Inbox, Google Calendar, Google Keep, Google Now, Google Fit and now, even I would go back to an iPhone today, there is no way, I'll use Apple Apps again (not as they are today).

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Neither? Not sure which part you are referring. I really believe that it's the best dev platform, I've tried all of them. Ubuntu can come close, but orders of magnitude less user friendly. In my opinion and the opinions of folks I've discussed this with.

I would agree. I love my Macs for dev work. Web dev and app dev alike are an absolute treat with a Unix-style backend but a much more polished front-end. Ubuntu is probably the only Linux distro that comes close to giving me that terminal power without rubbing it in my face constantly when I'm just trying to manage my day to day stuff and, even then, it's not even close to OS X. Windows, on the other hand, is only us…

OK, thanks for your polite answers.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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It was reported in the Isaacson biography: "Apple board member Art Levinson told Isaacson that he phoned Jobs “half a dozen times to lobby for the potential of the apps,” but, according to Isaacson, “Jobs at first quashed the discussion, partly because he felt his team did not have the bandwidth to figure out all the complexities that would be involved in policing third-party app developers.” Apple had already establ…

None of which contradicts my thesis: that it wasn't rejected, but that Apple wasn't ready at the time of release to undertake the task of opening it to all comers. The supposition that it was only due to the outcry of the development community is exactly that, a supposition.

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Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Neither? Not sure which part you are referring. I really believe that it's the best dev platform, I've tried all of them. Ubuntu can come close, but orders of magnitude less user friendly. In my opinion and the opinions of folks I've discussed this with.

I would agree. I love my Macs for dev work. Web dev and app dev alike are an absolute treat with a Unix-style backend but a much more polished front-end. Ubuntu is probably the only Linux distro that comes close to giving me that terminal power without rubbing it in my face constantly when I'm just trying to manage my day to day stuff and, even then, it's not even close to OS X. Windows, on the other hand, is only us…

Same with me, I basically do 3 things on my computer: develop code, edit pictures and write stuffs. Almost all my files are in the cloud available through the browser, and the fullfledged terminal with lots of convenience tools just feels great.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Is it only their software? I don't really see their hardware as first class anymore either. Looking at Apple laptops, the newest Intel processor I can get is a 5th gen Broadwell, and it's only in the 13" retina. The 15" retina has 4th gen Haswell. And the 13" pro? Some old processor from 2012. 6th gen Skylake is shipping everywhere from every other laptop manufacturer. The 13" Macbook Air still has a sub-HD display.…

Add to that thin power cables that fray easily. A poor keyboard (relative to my thinkpad). Glued-in internal battery. Heavy (relative to plastic/composites) aluminium case that dents easily and attenuates wifi. Glossy glass screen that cracks easily and is far too reflective. The trackpad is good for scrolling but right-click is too awkward. The whole design philosophy is form over function.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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That's right, the anti-aliasing didn't look good to me either. I'm sure it comes out very nicely in print.

That's interesting because 'back in the day' the IT department accidentally installed safari on my win XP box and as a long time mac user I thought 'finally some font rendering done right'. I guess it's down to taste or it perhaps it didn't work well for screens with low pixel density or people who like really small text and ui settings.

People like what they're used to. I'm not in the least surprised that you happened to be a former Mac user...
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