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Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by Anthony-G »

UltraSane wrote: post #528
saghm wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite story of just how little people who aren't as tech savvy don't differentiate between different parts of the browser UI (which naturally leads to clicking things that are best left unclicked) is when my grandmother told me her "internet was broken" and asked me to fix it. I was mentally preparing for a call to Verizon or something, but no, when she finally showed me, it turned out that one of the bookmarks…

I once was asked why the internet went away when he closed Internet Explorer. I really didn't know what to say.

I’d have probably have said that the Internet hasn’t really gone away: it’s still there in the same way that the outside street doesn’t go away when you close the curtains of your front room. That’d be my simple analogy.

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Post by soulofmischief »

andrewflnr wrote: post #640
soulofmischief wrote: post #637

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> I honestly thought you would know what I was talking about regarding the feasibility of a "functioning Congress", but you apparently just think that's an important but trivial detail to mention At no point did I assign triviality to the process of establishing a functioning Congress. In fact, I promoted it to be equal alongside a functioning executive branch. You're arguing with a sarcastic attitude and continuing…

I may have a bit of a sarcastic tone, but I'm nevertheless interpreting your words as well as I can. > If only the DNC was interested in promoting candidates that work for the people and aren't just interested in lip service while mostly maintaining the status quo. Things could have been different. Imagine what 8 years of Bernie and a functioning Congress might have accomplished. Yes, you acknowledge that a functioni…

You did misread me and you're still misreading my hypothetical situation as some kind of fantasy, when it is simply a baseline for how good things can be so that we can gauge just how far off track we are. You are ascribing intent and meaning to my words that were not present.

> If you don't think these statements show a lack of focus on Congress's dysfunctionality, clarify

Arguing about meta on the internet with a stranger is not something I find fun nor a good use of my time. I clarified my intent, so latching on to a misunderstanding that has already been corrected completely derails the conversation from the actual topic.

> This is technically phrased as a conditional

Dude, it's okay to misunderstand someone on the internet. I tried clarifying, smoothing things over and discussing the topic but you have replied with a list of technicalities and further assumptions and and even more negative attitude. This is not a healthy way to discuss anything, especially because we are no longer even discussing the thing; instead you're expecting me to continue defending myself against a barrage of further misunderstandings and assumptions.

Have a nice day, please do not respond with further bickering.

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Post by soulofmischief »

SR2Z wrote: post #639
soulofmischief wrote: post #605

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> The man has no political skill This is what I take issue with. It's a heavy enough accusation that it needs receipts. It needs proper framing on why exactly the benchmarks you've listed are important for delineating political skill and why other benchmarks are not.

Sure, here are a few that are directly relevant to political jobs: - legislation proposed and passed - elections won (i.e. candidate WAR) - ability to make backroom deals - campaigning skills He's not good at any of those except the last one. I've mentioned the bills, he lost two primaries (his staffers engaged in election denialism both times), only has a seat because he's in a safe Dem state, and has a reputation f…

Can you name another serious candidate at the time who had both political skill to your liking and also was an actual honest-to-god man of the people, even if some their policies are out of touch or misguided? Virtue alone was a good enough reason to make it an obvious choice for me, I'm not even here to defend his actual political prowess.

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

The trouble with adblocking is that it causes discomfort to a powerful party without making any demands. We withhold attention at scale, but we never say what we'd accept in exchange for giving it back. The only thing the advertisers can do is escalate, and they own most of the spaces we operate in.

There probably is a bargain - however faustian - to be struck. Advertising optimises for money transferred immediately over long term positive-sum introductions. It's obvious why they do that, but adblocking could be the leverage needed to encourage something more long-term beneficial for all.

What I can't work out is who the counterparty even is. My own hope is that Google and Meta face a 'kodak moment' - with genuinely better advertising simply overtaking their business. What I'm unsure about is how advertising's equivalent of the digital camera finds buyers - plenty of us want to walk away from advertising, and it's possible to adopt something less mutually destructive as a user... but the free stuff advertising currently pays for is not so easily replaced. Anyone have an idea what disruption would even look like in that space?

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Post by fsflover »

TylerE wrote: post #636
fsflover wrote: post #634

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There are no megacorps that care about your privacy. Regarding Apple, see these: Apple fined $8.5M for illegally collecting iPhone owners' data for ads (gizmodo.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected (aalto.fi) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 Apple silently uploads your passwords and keeps them (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator…

Oh, come on. What a bunch of scare mongering crap. Yes, if you tell Apple to store something on iCloud it...stores it on iCloud. That your examples are rather weak proves my point, not the opposite.

I agree that these problems are less outrageous than those for Google, but my links show much more than simply storing things on iCloud.
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