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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by upboundspiral »

kulahan wrote: post #634

Does anyone know if they’re actually at 2nm transistors, or if this is more marketing talk? It’s kinda like when TVs advertised their contrast ratios (do they still do that?) but they all used their own measurement methods, so dynamic contrast ratio became a worthless metric. Do you think that little moniker will just disappear in a decade or so as we reach 0nm advertisements, or do you think they'll just add more de…

It's all marketing talk, sort of.

Our transistors are about 30 nm give or take. But we've found new ways of aligning them so that if we had continued using old techniques, the density we get would be "2nm".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_nm_process

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Einenlum »

Why do they focus so much on hardware when their biggest problem is software? I don't get it. My Dell XPS 13 is probably not that powerful in terms of performance but Linux is so much more productive. This drives me crazy

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #630
senderista wrote: post #624

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS 26 made my iPhone SE pretty much unusable.

first gen? Because my SE from 2023 works very well with the latest 26.5 version.

First gen tops out at iOS15. I just shelved mine (used for a low-end test), a few months ago.

I use an iPhone X as my low-end test, now. It tops out on 18.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by InexSquirrel »

greenowl wrote: post #582
alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Still rocking an M1 Air - 2020 build. 8GB ram. No slowdown or deterioration at all. Battery health reports the battery max capacity at 84%. Best computer I've ever owned, by far.

Same here. Still using the original M1 as a daily dev pc. The portability and battery life are great. Biggest gripe is the limited number of USB-C ports...

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Einenlum »

xiphias2 wrote: post #97

Apple still has the best hardware so I moved to it for the last few years, but the closed software ecosystem is terrible for taking advantage of it. I wasn't able to debug network errors (restartin my Mac worked), Metal was missing low level disassembly / debugging tools (there is some hard to use UI), but the worst thing was the inflexible windowing system. Even getting all the window handles on all screens/desktops…

I don't understand how absolutely basic things are not possible on Mac OS. Switching between two windows easily, displaying hidden files in the finder... These things would be way easier to solve than building the next generation hardware.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by reaperducer »

Gud wrote: post #307
bayindirh wrote: post #117

I know, this is a bit of a meaningless comment, but it's funny in a way. Feels like late 90s again: - Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance. - Apple: *Meep Meep...*

Except in the 90s, I could wield my OS of choice on the hardware I bought.

Except in the 90s, I could wield my OS of choice on the hardware I bought.

What OS could I have loaded onto my Macintosh SE/30 that wasn't from Apple?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by sail0rm00n »

logotype wrote: post #219

Damn. I just bought a maxed out MacBook Pro M5 Max 128GB 8TB, still waiting for it to be delivered. I could get 256GB RAM M5 Ultra 1TB for roughly the same price, and it's double the memory bandwidth. Which one would you recommend? I do plan to run local LLMs.

M5 Ultra and toss in a MacBook Neo or older MacBook Air to SSH in

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by aymeric »

alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

What Linux distribution do you use?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by delish »

dcow wrote: post #534
alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Can you characterize the deterioration more specifically? I only ask because every time I run this exercise for myself I end up back on macOS, despite any hiccups.

An example of deterioration:

Jeff Goldblum's 30 second "Presenting three easy steps to the internet" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjY0xsoozs8

And now when you want to set up a fresh Mac it's a parade of dialogue boxes:

Do you want to turn on Siri? No. (the dialogue-choice is probably "maybe later" ugh)

Do you want to share app analytics with developers? Yes.

Do you want to add Touch ID? No, because I'm setting this up for someone else.

There are more!

I gave those examples -- each of which having a different answer or reason -- to show that the problem of onboarding is nontrivial, but Apple has spent no(?) effort toward fixing it. It's the same for new iPhones and iPads.

NB I don't know if you sign into your Apple account it pre-answers these questions. That'd be nice.

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