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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by blanched »

MarkusQ wrote: post #555
wvenable wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My son, for example, has sensory issues and cannot tune out anything. The "you have to practice it" is like telling a paraplegic that if they just exercise more they'd be able to walk. People are different and have different needs. > And I think that's really, really unhealthy, for them and for the rest of us. Or maybe it's not. Maybe the rest of the world is unhealthy and this is a way to reclaim some personal healt…

"When we argue for our limitations, we get to keep them." -- Evelyn Waugh Paraplegics don't have the use of their limbs. Acting as if "sensory issues" are in the same category is grossly insensitive.

Why is it grossly insensitive? Sensory issues are widely documented and studied. It's probably most well known as part of autism, but it's also seen in PTSD, schizophrenia, CTE, etc.

People with these conditions literally cannot learn to tune things out.

I suspect the parent commenter was intentionally vague to avoid derailing the thread into discussing their specifics (many of which are, unfortunately, currently politically charged).

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Post by [deleted] »

culturestate wrote: post #267
timcobb wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deaf people have a lifetime of training (hopefully) and experience dealing with things like this in ways the are appropriate for their situation

> Deaf people have a lifetime of training (hopefully) and experience Not every deaf person is born that way, mate.

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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by cyberpunk »

ssl-3 wrote: post #551
cyberpunk wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you happen to get covid or had a really heavy reaction to a inoculation around that time? That's what triggered mine; but it's actually been getting a lot better and (pure anecdotal) but I think 6 months or so of a b complex vitamin pill in the mornings have helped. Apparently, it can promote nerve repair, there's absolutely no money in studying this effect however so research is scant. I think you have very litt…

I've had some tinnitus for very long time (decades) -- usually, it was quiet enough to ignore and sometimes it seemed like it disappeared completely. It got way worse near the beginning of 2020. It became bad enough to hear all of the time. Even a rock concert doesn't really drown it out (yeah, I tend to wear earplugs for those -- but not quite at 100%). Also near the beginning of 2020: I was sick AF for over a month…

I'm using these ones:

https://www.gosupps.com/natural-elements-vitamin-b-complex-2...

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by malicka »

jzb wrote: post #217

This is not new. AirPods are newish, but this is not new. People have been wearing headphones in public spaces since the Walkman, if not before, in large numbers. You can probably find opinion columns bemoaning this shortly after the introduction of the Walkman.

The seeming ubiquity is definitely new.

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Post by mftrhu »

WalterBright wrote: post #610
mock-possum wrote: post #482

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Unwelcome attention is unwelcome attention. The only charitable exceptions might be children and adults with developmental disabilities, who allowably don’t know any better.

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You mean, what about the tall, handsome, well-dressed creepy men?

The dichotomy is not conventionally attractive/creepy, it's understands boundaries/creepy.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by Mistletoe »

satvikpendem wrote: post #150
Mistletoe wrote: post #46

All my co-workers wear those and I hate it. Any attempt to talk to them about work or personal subjects means they have to hit their ear and pause it. It just makes me want to say nothing.

That is by design, so they are not interrupted by random coworkers.

Well we are a science lab and need to constantly communicate about work so that’s not good.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by vicnov »

finales wrote: post #542
oceanplexian wrote: post #539

Yeah, great article. But it should get to the point. The reason you need to physically remove yourself is because of the insane lunatics that blast trash music and do a dance while aggressively panhandling or screaming at you for trying to commute quitely on the train to work. A hallmark of daily life when I worked in SF and in NYC. A great way to fix the fake problem would be to aggressively enforce the existing law…

People can’t understand you can’t have both protecting the poor and not enforcing laws against the poor at the same time

You can be poor and obey the law. You can protect the poor and enforce the law.

It is the weird identity politics is what gets in the way.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by joquarky »

goodmythical wrote: post #626
bscphil wrote: post #554

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Surely the solution to this social problem, however, can't be "everyone should simply convert to my religion / achieve a higher state of mind where they're not bothered by any form of inconvenience, irritation, or interruption." If it comes to that, most people will continue to wear their AirPods. It's a non-answer.

I think you'll find that I never made any such claim. I only ever spoke of my own experience with the topic at hand. I've done so in good faith that others may find it a useful comparison to the original technique suggested.

Comparison is also a source for suffering.

Unfortunately, you can't lead most people to this place you've found; they have to find it on their own in order for it to work for them.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by SubmarineClub »

bradleyjg wrote: post #592
oceanplexian wrote: post #539

Yeah, great article. But it should get to the point. The reason you need to physically remove yourself is because of the insane lunatics that blast trash music and do a dance while aggressively panhandling or screaming at you for trying to commute quitely on the train to work. A hallmark of daily life when I worked in SF and in NYC. A great way to fix the fake problem would be to aggressively enforce the existing law…

I’d say it’s the opposite. We get non enforcement and anti enforcement because lots of people aren’t directly affected. Different neighborhoods, work from home, private transportation to work, or—admittedly to a lesser degree—AirPod insulation. If we were really all this together quality of life in our cities would be taken far more seriously.

No, it’s because city politics in the US are dominated by naive bleeding-heart type leftists who are willing to overlook any and all forms of antisocial behavior if it’s committed by a poor and/minority individual.

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

oceanplexian wrote: post #539

Yeah, great article. But it should get to the point. The reason you need to physically remove yourself is because of the insane lunatics that blast trash music and do a dance while aggressively panhandling or screaming at you for trying to commute quitely on the train to work. A hallmark of daily life when I worked in SF and in NYC. A great way to fix the fake problem would be to aggressively enforce the existing law…

What's interesting is how the culture of the homeless people seems to differ across SF. Civic Center to 6th & Market is consistently the worst in my experience in terms of volatile people.

Tenderloin these days is relatively peaceful (plenty of people on the streets but they're just getting high with their friends).

Mission is chaotic, extra poop on the sidewalk, sometimes masses of people 50+ deep. But also the people on the street seem to mostly know and take care of each other. Higher density of people selling stolen goods. If I take Muni bus 14 home at 3AM it's a bunch of people shuttling to shelters but being polite (although not always lucid), exchanging cans of soda, etc. However I've heard quite a few stories from 38 with people being threatening or worse.

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