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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#642
Out of curiosity, can that model be trained from the beginning without touching "sensitive" areas and remain useful in others? Will it be able to help in building biological weapons without being trained on articles and books about biology/ medicine?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#643
post #19

> We have reviewed the report and validated that the level of capability displayed there is widely available from other models (including OpenAI’s GPT-5.5), and is used every day by the defenders who keep systems safe. We will share more details over the next 24 hours. So much for all of the rhetoric about Mythos supposedly far surpassing GPT 5.5 (edit: in cybersecurity, in particular). Of course, the AISI benchmarks…

Reading comprehension failure on display here from maxall4.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#644
I've been using Kimi k2.6 extensively via kimi-code and I only reach for frontier models when I do a multi-model security review (and Kimi actually does a better job of finding stuff, albeit with more false positives -- I often run Kimi's output through Opus 4.7/8 and Opus will concur that Kimi found genuine issues, while Opus didn't actually find those issues itself, for example).

So whatever, I just don't really feel the need to burn tokens on Fable anyway.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#645
post #41

This is exactly what Dario asked for in his last blog post. So even though this is clearly stupid, I just can bring myself to feel sorry for Anthropic.

This is explicitly not what Dario asked for in his blog. Care to quote his post for me where you feel that he asked for this?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#646

Crying wolf bites back? This looks like a giant PR stunt to me. Maybe they got jealous of spacex's IPO and want to jack up their initial stock price even more?

Anthropic is one of the main deals for SpaceX.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#648

I feel like this is part of the “negotiation” between the US Gov (Trump) and Anthropic and other labs for an equity stake. “If we have a seat at the table, and a confederate engineering team embedded, then we can ensure you won’t let nefarious actors use the models.” Either that or a temporary gate on Anthropic to benefit other labs (think maybe SpaceX started trading today).

Everyone outside of the USA today who is using US models in their products are worried that this is the first but not the last time this will happen.

Further the SpaceX IPO was on revenues from AI data centers. This might be a problem.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#649
post #508

I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government. Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control. This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They a…

I still remember when Netscape had outdated ssl for a few years because more advanced cryptography was classified by the US gov as armaments or something. Basically used export restrictions to prevent better security technology from being adopted into commercial products.

Which was a clear as day message that "We have ways to decrypt this, but can't yet decrypt that, so please use the one we can snoop on".

Yet somehow we're always forgetting that lesson and surprised when government is found snooping.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#650

This might be the pin-prick that bursts the AI "bubble". All those $Billions of investments in AI Datacenters? Up in smoke if the models that are capable of replacing humans can't actually be used. I wonder if 2008 style bailouts will be needed, soon. That trillion-$SpaceX valuation based on $14B+$10B infusion from Anthropic and Google? Heard they have short-notice cancellation clauses. Either this rule is rescinded…

To make the problem worse, everyone outside of the USA now has to decide the risk of this further escalating. Is this the first of many similar decisions to come?
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