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Re: Siri AI

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Post by macintux »

Planktonne wrote: post #620
alt227 wrote: post #591

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Its always frustrating when people describe a tech issue, and the response to that is not to discuss the issue itself, but just point out ways in which the person reply doesn't agree with what they are assuming is the original posters lifestyle choices. Why waste time and effort just picking apart what someone else does with their free time? I can only assume becasue they disagree with the issues relevance, but that…

Tech issues don't exist in a vacuum; the idea that tech--a thing we use to enhance our lives, in a discussion literally about doing that--can only be considered from a purely mechanical standpoint is a thought-terminating cliché at this point. Considering the uses and impact of tech is part of talking about it; you can't limit discussion just to the wires.

> It's a use-case that is either inefficient or inhuman, and I find it really odd that it's one that you value.

You could have simply asked without denigrating the commenter.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mnicky »

microtonal wrote: post #562
kristianc wrote: post #465

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An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

And even if I organized a hike to Big Sur, Apple Maps would be pretty worthless because it doesn't have trail visualization and navigation worth speaking of (ok, maybe in Big Sur, but certainly not the rest of the world). So I end up pulling out the trusty old Garmin gpsmap with cycle/hiking maps, that survived drops from 1.5 meters at 30 km/h as I was gliding of a mountain with my bike.

I recommend mapy.com (mobile app and web app too when on computer) - they mostly use OSM data and rendering of map tiles is great. Also offline maps etc.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by martin_drapeau »

What is not demoed are basic AI capabilities I need today to effeciently use my iPhone. Examples: - Siri, send the latest 20VC podcast to my watch. I'm going jogging. - Siri, do not start Apple Music. I do not use that app. Start Podcast. - Spell check and Auto-Correction on iMessage should support French and English. I switch from the 2 all the time. - Etc...

I'm sure you guys have tons of others to list.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by aurareturn »

KawaiiCyborg wrote: post #604
aurareturn wrote: post #549

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Those machines don’t connect to the internet but I want to run my own software on them.

1. A lot of those more recent machines do actually connect to the internet. 2. Since you want to run your own software on them, but you can't buy open hardware like that, did you build it yourself then as you suggested? "If they don't exist, make them yourself."

1. I want to run my own software even on the ones that don’t connect to the internet. /s

2. No, I don’t have the skills to. But if it’s so important to you, you can surely build it yourself.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by codechicago277 »

SebastianKra wrote: post #495
s3p wrote: post #283

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Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

"Siri, lights out everywhere" - "okay, which room". "Siri, start a stopwatch" - runs the App "Stopwatch" without starting it Such errors happen maybe 50% of the time. You can never just ask something without double-checking afterwards.

Siri, wake me up at “time”… Months later you have dozens of saved alarms, all at different times.

Set a timer for 50 minutes…always get a timer for 15.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by noutella »

zzrrt wrote: post #408
baby_souffle wrote: post #344

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Did iOS ever get OCR based copy/paste? Pixels have had it for years but I think it's in every android phone now; from the app switcher you can press and hold and the system will OCR the text and allow you to copy it. Because so many things _still_ don't make that easy to do on mobile.

I don't think iOS has it from the app switcher, but pretty easy to take a screenshot and immediately select from it. (Or selecting from older screenshots or photos you open.)

Yes some of the best "AI" features Apple has implemented are related to picture search : you can describe what you want to find and it will consistently find it, even inside of videos with highlights or the moments you're looking for. Much less supposedly sexy than the SIRI AI / Apple Intelligence hype, but also much more useful

Re: Siri AI

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Post by gedy »

chaos_emergent wrote: post #639
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

This morning, while putting in daily contacts, I realized I was down to my last few pairs. Still standing at the bathroom sink, I used the ChatGPT app on my phone to voice-command the Codex app on my computer to book an optometrist appointment for Saturday. It visited the website, figured out the API, and booked it. No, this isn’t the same as planning a multi-day vacation. But it is plainly useful today, and it feels…

It is neat, but come on you could've booked from website on the phone too.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by stevage »

chaos_emergent wrote: post #639
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

This morning, while putting in daily contacts, I realized I was down to my last few pairs. Still standing at the bathroom sink, I used the ChatGPT app on my phone to voice-command the Codex app on my computer to book an optometrist appointment for Saturday. It visited the website, figured out the API, and booked it. No, this isn’t the same as planning a multi-day vacation. But it is plainly useful today, and it feels…

This is the kind of example that people use to demonstrate "usefulness" that falls so flat to me. I could make that phone call in a minute and have no doubts about whether my agent had stuffed up somehow.

It's just not compelling to say that an AI can do an easy task quickly. This is still worth zero dollars to me.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by brookst »

alt227 wrote: post #596
brookst wrote: post #381

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So you’d be cool with speed limit signs that said “hey, don’t go too fast” and no specific limits? And the cops decide who to pull over on vibes, reputation, mood? I’m more of a rule of law person myself. If there’s a law that must not be broken, and breaking it results in penalties, it seems insane to me to not specify it in advance. Sure, big tech is largely evil. Arrest ‘em, find them, IDGAF. But pretending that D…

>speed limit signs that said “hey, don’t go too fast” Yeah we already have that. We have the words 'SLOW' on the road that ask you to slow down from the current limit for the hazard ahead, but pulling you up on this is officers discretion.

Bad example, as there is a posted speed limit above which you are positively breaking the law. Discretion may lower the limit.

The DMA doesn’t have the objective measures. It’s all discretion, all subjective, all post hoc.

Which, cool, some people like the idea that police target those people and need flexibility to make life harder for undesirables in ways they would never do to high status people. I don’t personally like that, and I don’t think tech regulation should work that way.

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