we laugh and make fun and shake our heads at this. We did the same when Elon did what he did during the Twitter take over. Then every other company followed suit.
This is coming for all of us.
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Truly terrifying. I'll admit I was expecting one of the near-15.62 options to be "acceptable". How wrong I was; I should have seen that coming. As one of the below comments says, you just don't know what level of snooping is going on. If you're reading this $CEO, hi!
If you can meet their goals, that just means there is more they can squeeze out of you. The incentive structure for our corporations means there is literally never enough and they will always demand more.
I've heard stories of current day federal employee performance reviews where, unofficially, no manager is permitted to give out a perfect 5 out of 5.
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Doesn't visiting hacker news count as personal growth? Or am I supposed to grow professionally outside the work?
You're 100% supposed to grow professionally outside of work.
I'm fascinated by all the underachievers downvoting me.
Do y'all really not read Hacker News while board sitting on the couch? Discover a new programming language that looks interesting? Play with some new database technology? Read a reddit sub related to technogoly, etc. after the hours of 9 to 5? Vibe some fun looking idea, even if you just throw it away?
I'm kind of doubtful the people who are actually spending time learning something on Hacker News fall really into the category that they're not working on their career growth outside of work hours....
Are any of you good at your job?
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#644I have a serious question to anyone working at Meta and reading this: HOW can you still work at this company!? Why don't you quit this very toxic company, and start working at another place or even on your own? I genuinely don't understand... Let just Meta die!
People always answer this question with money. But if we think of it as a version of the prisoner dilemma (Meta is one prisoner, the employee is the other), the right move is probably to work somewhere else for a lower salary. By working for Meta, they are defecting against you (openly screen recording you to train your AI replacement). Choosing to work somewhere else would be like you defecting against Meta. Extreme…
Those are easy choices, but unrealistic. Its also not like offer packages are a click away from showing into your email inbox, they are excruciating and highly random.
More realistic choices are: - $400k/yr for 5 years followed by a layoff, with the possibility that the thing you've helped Meta build rolls out everywhere, and there are next to no job opportunities
or
- 150k/year for 3 years followed by being laid off due to runway ending, Meta out-competing your company, or whatever. Despite you not helping build the thing meant to replace you, it still got built.
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#645Why does this feel worse?
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This is such a curious POV for me - I'd genuinely like to hear your thoughts on this. Who owns your career growth if not.. you? (If you don't desire to grow your career, that's a viewpoint I can entirely understand.)
some people see 'career growth' as going to seminars and networking with manager types. some people see 'career growth' as opening up a new technical manual and acquainting themselves with new stuff. I think it's import to differentiate; networking with managers and going to industry-specific (or even company specific ) seminars offers next to zero enticement for me, but I usually always have the time to read about a…
I don't think it matters how you define it. Engineering career growth is almost always going to be about understanding the new technologies, gaining communication skills in navigating an org. etc....
What you're calling personal growth is 100% related to career growth. And you sound like someone who does do things outside the hours of 9 to 5 that intellectually you find interesting, and likely makes you better at what you do 9 to 5...
You're going to show up at that meeting someday, there's going to be a problem to solve, and you're going to have some ideas for things to try that are answers, because you read about that new tech. And someone's going to tap you on the shoulders to lead that or what not....
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#647It's always been hard to know the extent of how draconian tracking actually is (IT pros tend to not talk about it much). In the US, there's the expectation that when you use an employer-provided device that any and all activity on it can be fully monitored/recorded and used against the employee for any reason. In practice, however, few people worry about reasonable amounts web-surfing, being on hacker-news or doing l…
The professions with the least negotiating power will have the most draconian "oversight". Imagine a cashier graded in real time on how many customers they smile at. Or tracking how many glasses in a restaurant are empty.
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What makes this even more hilarious is that Meta's rebranding was in part inspired by the metaverse concept in Snow Crash. You can bet that Zuckerberg, along with many other tech executives, have read this exact passage while mining the book for ideas. Life imitating art?
Tech corp execs also read the rest of Snowcrash , unfortunately, so besides the metaverse crap we also got Snowcrash's "gig economy" labor hellscape. See also, Jennifer Government , numerous works of PKD, etc.
It's the torment nexus, which literally came out of a reaction to Facebook's rebrand to Meta
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Truly terrifying. I'll admit I was expecting one of the near-15.62 options to be "acceptable". How wrong I was; I should have seen that coming. As one of the below comments says, you just don't know what level of snooping is going on. If you're reading this $CEO, hi!
It's the kind of list an LLM might make up.
Stephenson's tokens were expensive, which explains the skipped endings.
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Have to agree with you on this. Neal Stephenson is not a writer's writer by any means. But even by his standards I found the prose in Snowcrash to be plodding and amateur. I still love the book for its campy nature and for all the amazing ideas it birthed but it would have definitely benefited from a round of aggressive editing. Also the ending quite frankly was horrible, but I hear this is a general issue with Steph…
I found the second part of Seven Eves to be a surreal experience. I think I might have stopped reading Stephenson after that.
Howso?