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vachina wrote: post #454
sshine wrote: post #348

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+1 When I migrated from Gmail to Fastmail years ago, I thought Fastmail felt... less featureful. When I rarely visit my abandoned Gmail, I can't believe I put up with the clunkiness. Lean software stands the test of time. Fastmail hasn't had a noteworthy UI change ever. Minor annoyances: - Clicking an iPhone notification opens the app, but never brings me to the actual email - It is difficult to unfold the full exten…

Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by crottypeter »

mohamedkoubaa wrote: post #33
Wingman4l7 wrote: post #7

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Apple? The company that has built its entire brand and product lines around "we know what's best for you and if you don't like the way we've done it, you're wrong"?

Yes. We expect the company that prides itself on having taste to avoid doing tasteless things.

I recently switched to Apple Music.

Found a U2 album in my library. Familiar anyone?

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by NagatoYuzuru »

duskdozer wrote: post #634
NagatoYuzuru wrote: post #435

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As a non native English speaker, letting an LLM translate my emails is actually a sweet trap that’s all too easy to fall into. But Gemini in Gmail DOESN’T SUPPORT non English input. What’s the point of this thing?

>As a non native English speaker, letting an LLM translate my emails is actually a sweet trap that’s all too easy to fall into. There's a big difference between running your input through DeepL and asking [ChatGPT] to rewrite it. I don't know how we got to the latter being the go-to

DeepL's limit is now only 500 words. And I already have a whole bunch of subscriptions. This will become a habit. That’s why DeepL is feeling the pressure and [laying off](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-07/google-tr...) employees.

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Post by vonunov »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #270
lern_too_spel wrote: post #266

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uBlock Origin. The easy customizability of web applications is why I prefer them over other proprietary applications when there are no open source choices. In this particular case, if the whole UI is irredeemable, you can access your mail with IMAP or POP.

> uBlock Origin. I did try this without success. > if the whole UI is irredeemable, you can access your mail with IMAP or POP. I access my mail across a doz machines - and I support scores of users. Setting up stand-alone/3rd party clients (at scale) is a bit unwieldy. The bad actor here turns out to be the Chrome browser. Every other browser behaves better in this.

  mail.google.com##div[aria-label="Message Body"] span[contenteditable="false"]
It is admittedly a bit beyond "easy customizability" once you find yourself sifting through element attributes in the dev console to craft a selector ("easy" shouldn't require knowing what any of those things are, I would think), but in case you still want to actually do it, this seems to work.

They have an ungodly number of event listeners. Why do they need so many? And I keep finding spans nested inside spans for no reason; i.e., the parent span only contains a child span. It's such an outrageous mess

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Post by dspillett »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #445
dspillett wrote: post #347

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> but ALL class action or settlement related emails get automatically chucked into to my gmail spam folder Every now and then I get a glut of “if you bought X in timeframe Y you might be due a pay-out” junk mail, so this might be genuine false positives rather than something more sinister. Though the cynic in me, that has been right so many times over the years wrt corporate behaviour, is inclined to agree with your…

There is exactly zero chance the gmail team is unaware that epiqnotice.com is a legitimate sender of class action messages and getting falsely blocked.

There is also zero chance that there are not a fair few people who consider their messages to be UCE¹ even if they are actually due thruppence-ha'penny as their share of the class action win, and who therefore mark them as such which is a signal that automated filter management algorithms will pick up on.

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[1] They are email, from a commercial entity, and in many cases were not asked for, after all.

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Post by abc123abc123 »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

I use infomaniak. Works great, no complaints. The support is based on human beings as well. I like that, and they are polite and helpful too!

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by abc123abc123 »

vachina wrote: post #454
sshine wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 When I migrated from Gmail to Fastmail years ago, I thought Fastmail felt... less featureful. When I rarely visit my abandoned Gmail, I can't believe I put up with the clunkiness. Lean software stands the test of time. Fastmail hasn't had a noteworthy UI change ever. Minor annoyances: - Clicking an iPhone notification opens the app, but never brings me to the actual email - It is difficult to unfold the full exten…

Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

This is the way. Use a tui client like alpine or mutt, and enjoy managing 100s of thousands of emails in ms. I feel physical pain when I have to see colleagues and acquaintances wait for several seconds in their heavy web interfaces. I can manipulate batches of emails with terminal tools and the power of Maildir.

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Post by teekert »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #628
GJim wrote: post #617

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> You can export mails, but only if you're on a paid plan. GDPR to the rescue: You have the right to data portability. All UK/EU email providers offer this (and any that don't may need a polite reminder for them to play ball). https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-re...

I thought protonmail supports imap. Or was it discontinued?

There is a local bridge which transparently communicates between Proton’s encrypted servers and offers imap locally. Only on non-mobile OSs afaik. [0]

[0] https://proton.me/mail/bridge

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by latexr »

swyx wrote: post #544
al_borland wrote: post #364

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One could argue the “That time works for me” prompts are also a waste of time, especially when only occasionally useful. Do we really need a button to type 5 words on an occasional basis? I’ve used the button before, but I think my life would be exactly the same without it.

then you dont deal in high enough email volume

If you’re getting so much email you can’t type five words, a button with wrong suggestions isn’t the solution either. Create your own text snippets with text expansion software and use those. They’ll always be correct and will truly save you time.
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