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United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by _carbyau_ »

godelski wrote: post #611
steve1977 wrote: post #596

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument is that if I'm responsible for the safety of a very heterogenous group of people in the cabin of my airplane, I will assume that those people are already stressed and will probably act even less rational than they normally would. And that's all that matters in that moment. > If they're that crazy you put them in a hospital because clearly they need help Oh believe me, I would if I could...

> Oh believe me, I would if I could... Then let's stop letting this be acceptable behavior? I mean aren't you just enabling crazy people by defending them?

I think the point here is the captain is responsible for an isolated pocket of humanity in a cabin. That captain is to take that cabin way up in the air, move it a lot, and get it back down safely.

And not all of the risks are about moving the cabin. Many of the risks are within the cabin and while some dickhead getting uppity at the pub will get collared by the police, it is a totally different problem while in the air.

So, while in the cabin, don't try to fuck around and find out. No one wants to find out anything. They just want to get to the other end of the trip.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by mrheosuper »

prmoustache wrote: post #632
klustregrif wrote: post #620

It’s seems like they just reported this initially as “four letter word” and then a media outlet later assumed it was bomb. It seems more likely it was a UE Boom, which has boom in its default Bluetooth name. If that’s the case the teen likely just owned the device and didn’t knot it was turned on. It’s rather long battery and it’s not obvious if it’s on or not.

Yes I have a speaker of the same brand, bluetooth ID is Boom4 as it is the model name. I have no idea if it can be changed, if it can, probably only through an app only a minority of users would have had installed anyway (I don't). Aditionally the order given by the crew (turning off bluetooth) would have done no results as most people would simply assume turning off bluetooth on their smartphone/videogame console/la…

Also people could assume airplane mode turning off all wireless connection. It does not turn off bluetooth(at least on my phone)

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by [deleted] »

steve1977 wrote: post #545
vkou wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will the captain likewise call the FBI if some knuckledragging mouth breather with three ex-wives and a flag tattoo on his groin has an access point called 'Make Murucuh Great Again'? That would make me uncomfortable on the flight, and it's also one-hundred percent a political statement. One that is actively hostile to millions of Americans, and many more people outside of it.

If the captain thinks it poses a risk to his plane, why not?

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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by tefkah »

joxdosba wrote: post #584
imoverclocked wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Many people are unaware of just how much authority a captain has; Failing to follow their instructions is (basically) a felony. It's best to just not mess around on an aircraft.

Am a pilot, this is totally wrong. PIC authority is strictly limited to in-scope items, this very obviously wasn’t in scope unless it was e.g. causing other passengers to behave in an unruly manner.

thanks for clarifying, this whole thread was sounding a bit ridiculous

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by hypfer »

The meta narrative here is a shift towards more authoritarian ideas gaining further foothold/dominance.

As can be seen in the naming treatment + the comments on that article + comments here. But also can be seen in various other places.

In fact, it has already happened to a degree where we see these lagging(!) indicators pop up. So wherever we currently stand is further than those. To which degree though I couldn't say.

Plan/act accordingly.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by hdgvhicv »

klustregrif wrote: post #620

It’s seems like they just reported this initially as “four letter word” and then a media outlet later assumed it was bomb. It seems more likely it was a UE Boom, which has boom in its default Bluetooth name. If that’s the case the teen likely just owned the device and didn’t knot it was turned on. It’s rather long battery and it’s not obvious if it’s on or not.

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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

I think its a move by United to set precedent so they can do whatever they want on subsequent flights. And because of that, to also help law enforcement say they can take away some of your rights when flying.

Tinfoil hat on.

In the past few years, whenever I hear United on the news its not because they did something “good”.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by Y-bar »

fny wrote: post #498
da_chicken wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The right of free speech is not wholly encompassed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. In fact, it's the other way around, it's because the right of free speech is recognized as a universal, natural right then the US Federal Government is not permitted to make a law suppressing speech. The First Amendment does not create the right. The right is there, naturally, whether or not the United States…

I'm pretty sure Madison would have jailed you if you showed up on his lawn with an "ARSON" sign. The founders believed in private property rights as much as free speech. Property was even a requirement for voting in most states.

> The founders believed in private property rights as much as free speech

This explains why Samuel Adams and the Sons of Liberty happily destroyed private property in the Boston Tea Party.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by oddmade »

Awhile ago I named my phone "you-have-been-hacked" and to my joy it made me look twice at my router a few months later haha

Perhaps the joke is irresponsible on my behalf potentially causing unnecessary stress for whomever is directly or indirectly scanning my device...

..but on the other hand, if this person can't see the joke, perhaps they shouldn't have access to scanning devices.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts?

Cheers

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by mx7zysuj4xew »

mlyle wrote: post #624
_moof wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. That is a very, very, very different statement than "I'm calling the FBI." You're talking about should or shouldn't. The issue here is past that point: whether it's then right to involve people who are…

I don't know what the right answer is to people doing weird stuff in enclosed places with a captive audience is. The wifi name probably should have been ignored. But the incidents of people airdropping profane pictures to randos on planes...

That's a design flaw in AirDrop, not an "incident"
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