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Post by kergonath »

k33n wrote: post #487
inopinatus wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given how the situations w.r.t Ukraine & Iran escalated, the US is the only country that has specifically and publicly demonstrated it's inability on both counts. We can't give Ukraine their nukes back because they were decommissioned (and they were rotting at the time), but there'd be no nation more deserving. Corollary: no individual nation is able to shoulder such responsibilities.

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> Re: Iran, the US fully having its way with them.

Sure, everything is fine. I am sure Iran will be a peaceful democracy any day now.

In reality, none of Trump’s stated goals are likely to happen any time soon.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by kergonath »

Auracle wrote: post #609
reverius42 wrote: post #531

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> the US fully having its way with them So the Straights of Hormuz are totally reopened, right? Any day now?

It’s pretty damned hard to completely secure any area from a potential attack when all one side needs is a drone. That’s a pretty specific high bar when we’ve destroyed most of their navy, Air Force, etc, all within a couple of weeks.

> It’s pretty damned hard to completely secure any area from a potential attack when all one side needs is a drone.

Right. So maybe get a good plan before showing up and bombing all the things? We are not setting the bar, Trump told us why he expected to do in Iran. It was about as realistic as Putin’s fantasies about Ukraine surrendering on day 3.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by imtringued »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #433
gerdesj wrote: post #421

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China's wot?

I don't personally like their government but at this point they certainly have the appearance of long term social and political stability. More than most western countries for the time being.

That's true, but the one child policy has backed them into a corner.

A society that is unwilling to replace itself will inevitably decline.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by oytis »

observationist wrote: post #318
15155 wrote: post #248

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> Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply globally. The cries of a long-since-dead empire slowly fading into geopolitical irrelevance.

Not so slowly. They've gone from a more or less respectable smaller country to more or less politically, culturally, and economically irrelevant in less than 10 years. I even question whether it's rational to allow them to have nukes; they should probably be required to give them up to some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century.

OK, I can see how you can call UK irrelevant, but unstable? Currently it looks much more stable that the major nuclear powers of US and Russia.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by Reason077 »

hdgvhicv wrote: post #606
Nursie wrote: post #495

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> arrested in the UK for holding blank signs within vicinity of Palestine marches. Got a source on this one? Supporting Palestine in the UK has never been illegal. Supporting the specific group "Palestine Action" has been as they were for a while a proscribed terrorist organisation due to what was (IMHO) some property crimes committed against defense contractors by some of their members. Totally wrong, and has now be…

They were breaking in and damaging US military The group itself offered training courses on Ho to sabotage the U.K. military https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/palestine-ac... I wonder what would happen in the US with such a group

They broke into an RAF base, and defaced/damaged UK military hardware (spraypaint on aircraft). This is a serious crime, but in no way does it meet any reasonable definition of terrorism. There are plenty of laws under which those responsible can be charged, it was a ridiculous overreach to use anti-terror laws.

More concerningly, prescribing Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation had a suppressive effect on lawful protest against the Israel-Gaza war, since any supporter of Palestine might be considered a member of Palestine Action and therefore, legally, a terrorist suspect.

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Post by swiftcoder »

jacquesm wrote: post #430
drnick1 wrote: post #326

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The UK has been declining for at least 50 years, it isn't a new phenomenon. It's only really relevant culturally; after all EU countries are forced to speak English or they wouldn't be able to communicate, even after the UK's departure from the Union and some unsuccessful attempts at increasing the place of French.

Not having the UK in the EU makes English a better choice, not a worse one. It was one of those things where the UK had a 'home court advantage'. This is one of the strangest fringe benefits and of course there were some countries that tried to jockey for position but fortunately that didn't go anywhere.

And hey, now that the UK exited stage right, Ireland gets to be the de-facto owner of the English language in the EU :D

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Post by DivingForGold »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #513
harry8 wrote: post #503

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Did it work out better for North Korea or Iran?

North Korea is still standing and even got Trump to play diplomacy. Only reason Iran got attacked is the fact they didn't have nukes yet . Venezuela showed everyone what happens when you're a toothless country. USA shows up at your door uninvited, fucks your shit up, takes your oil and kidnaps your president for good measure, just to tack on some extra humiliation. Don't get me wrong, Maduro deserved an even worse fa…

Nicaragua and Cuba next

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by [deleted] »

hdgvhicv wrote: post #606
Nursie wrote: post #495

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> arrested in the UK for holding blank signs within vicinity of Palestine marches. Got a source on this one? Supporting Palestine in the UK has never been illegal. Supporting the specific group "Palestine Action" has been as they were for a while a proscribed terrorist organisation due to what was (IMHO) some property crimes committed against defense contractors by some of their members. Totally wrong, and has now be…

They were breaking in and damaging US military The group itself offered training courses on Ho to sabotage the U.K. military https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/palestine-ac... I wonder what would happen in the US with such a group

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by swiftcoder »

imtringued wrote: post #643
fc417fc802 wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't personally like their government but at this point they certainly have the appearance of long term social and political stability. More than most western countries for the time being.

That's true, but the one child policy has backed them into a corner. A society that is unwilling to replace itself will inevitably decline.

> the one child policy has backed them into a corner

A policy that ended a decade ago, and was only ever marginally successful (even at the height of the restrictions their birth rate was nearer 1.4 than 1.0)

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Post by 21asdffdsa12 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #513
harry8 wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did it work out better for North Korea or Iran?

North Korea is still standing and even got Trump to play diplomacy. Only reason Iran got attacked is the fact they didn't have nukes yet . Venezuela showed everyone what happens when you're a toothless country. USA shows up at your door uninvited, fucks your shit up, takes your oil and kidnaps your president for good measure, just to tack on some extra humiliation. Don't get me wrong, Maduro deserved an even worse fa…

Iran would be attacked even with nukes. If you promise relentless war- and nuclear attacks via proxxies - you basically show that game-theory does not apply to you. Religion explicitly states that MAD does not apply to them too. And they life by that. So Iran with nukes, would be nuked 1 day after. No matter the cost. Its similar to the a medieval pope having nukes, and everyone else being heretic witches. You just pick the size of the stake you burn on at that point.

What the west wishes the world to be and how they think everyone does see the world, does simply not apply. No matter how Nash pure. The All defector defects in all games..

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