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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by Cipater »

echelon_musk wrote: post #458
Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

I can't recommend Heretic by Ayaan Hirsi Ali enough.

I don't think doctrinal reformation is possible with Islam.

The Qur'an is totally prescriptive. It contains direct legal commands, judicial rules and explicit government principles which are all binding and considered as direct divine speech.

I think Westernisation and an increase in the number of "casual" muslims is and will continue to be the moderating effect.

Think of what is happening in Europe (as the clearest example) with the influx of Muslim immigrants who raise increasingly more assimilated children as the blueprint.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by wqaatwt »

pferde wrote: post #427
wqaatwt wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US is not at war with Iran. Only the Congress has the right to declare war.

Ok, call it a "special military operation" if you want. A war by any other name would smell just as bad. And what is Congress - or any other part of the US government - going to do about the pedophile not following rules? Stop him? How? Every potential check and balance has either been defanged or is controlled by his supporters.

Probably nothing. Also it’s not like the Democrats have much moral high ground to stand on here either (considering that Obama did more or less the same thing several times).

But congress can of course stop Trump from doing this and a whole bunch of other stuff. The problem is that it just chose not to and to give up much of its powers to the executive over the years (in practice if not legally) due to partisan reasons..

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by nerdyadventurer »

bsenftner wrote: post #611
esalman wrote: post #571

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am Sunni and I condemn the attack. Having said that, I also condemn Iranian regime killing (reportedly) 30000 protesters. So he probably had it coming. I'm more concerned about what happens to US now, because I think the attack indicates a complete failure and collapse of the legislative branch of the US government.

Oh, there is no effective US Government beyond Trump's demands. he's decimated anyone that could challenge, and the general public was manufactured without the critical analysis to understand. The USA is over and gone, the US is a headless zombie nation operated by 7th graders, pedos, and drug addicts. All they need is a social following and loyalty, and they are part of the government.

Cannot believe so called great country, elected a convicted felon.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by Ali_ll »

gus_massa wrote: post #448
cosmicgadget wrote: post #260

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True but other countries don't have an equivalent process.

Most have, but the decition is made by the local politicians instead of foreing nuclear powers. It's actually very similar to the impeachment.

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by Cipater »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #586
UltraSane wrote: post #486

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Sunni Muslims hate the Iranian regime and consider Shia to be heretics

Only people who live on social media believe these extreme views to be true. Most muslims hardly even know the difference or care.

While the comment you replied to was "extreme", it is impossible for any muslim to not know the difference when the difference defines everything about how they practice their religion.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by nerdyadventurer »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #526
penguin_booze wrote: post #416

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Do enjoy the moment while it lasts. Because the next ruler will be an American stooge. This isn't going anywhere, like the other "revolutions" in the middle east.

> Because the next ruler will be an American stooge. And if that's the case, do you think that American stooge shall do worse than Khamenei who ordered his islamist guards to slaughter 30 000+ unarmed iranian protesters in a matter of days? What can be worse than religious extremist sending their fanatics into hospitals to finish the wounded? I'm in the EU and I see cars with iranian flags honking. Someone posted a v…

What about close to one million deaths in Iraq not to mention other countries?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by xyzsparetimexyz »

elif wrote: post #591
Alex_L_Wood wrote: post #559

It’s so funny reading most comments here, knowing that they’d be celebrating and saying this is good if it was Netanyahu. But when it’s a maniacal islamist declaring his goal to be the destruction of US and Israel, it’s suddenly very nuanced.

I'm all for upholding international law and holding tyrants to justice. I am also in favor of the US Constitution's separation of powers. I would be equally pissed if Netanyahu died at the expense of rule of law.

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by muzani »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #514
muzani wrote: post #244

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I prefer assassinations of leaders in wars over deaths of soldiers and especially civilians. Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' or the US dropping nukes in WW2 instead of bombing the Japanese Emperor. This is decent as far as wars go.

> I prefer assassinations of leaders in wars over deaths of soldiers and especially civilians. To me, this argument doesn't hold water. Think about some counterexamples: (1) Netanyahu and Gaza. Surely, 100K+ civilians died as a result of that war. (2) Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Vietnam. A staggering number of civilians died in that war. (3) GW Bush in Afghanistan and Iraq/2. My guess: All of those leaders are respon…

It was a criticism of the three wars you mentioned. I think a quick victory would have limited civilian deaths in all those situations.

Except the first one, because the goal of that war was killing the civilians. They could have assassinated Hamas leaders just as easily, but then there would be no reason to bomb all those hospitals and children.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

This is likely what the USA fascists want - some Islamic terrorist attacks (possibly false flag operations) will provide a justification for removing non-whites from the USA.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by daveguy »

esalman wrote: post #571
UltraSane wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sunni Muslims hate the Iranian regime and consider Shia to be heretics

I am Sunni and I condemn the attack. Having said that, I also condemn Iranian regime killing (reportedly) 30000 protesters. So he probably had it coming. I'm more concerned about what happens to US now, because I think the attack indicates a complete failure and collapse of the legislative branch of the US government.

The collapse happened when we elected a power drunk fool with a Project 2025 playbook to completely strip the separation of powers in favor of the Executive branch.

Now the war fool is trying to start as many conflicts as possible inside and outside the US to distract from his disturbingly heavy Epstein involvement to give him an excuse to take over polling sites in the US. No more wars my rear.

We have a chance to recover in the November elections by voting out his puppets and tools in congress. The question is whether or not we will take it.

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