The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe • Hacker News Board

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by elAhmo » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:37 AM UTC

jillesvangurp wrote: post #617

pentagrama wrote: post #353

This feels like a surprisingly good moment for Linux desktops to position themselves as real alternatives and actually gain ground. MacOS Tahoe has been heavily criticized for its UI decisions, especially Liquid Glass, which many people feel actively hurts usability rather than improving it. On the other side, Windows keeps piling on user-hostile features, dark patterns, and friction that increasingly frustrate power…

We're at the stage where almost any UI change no matter how small on Macs is heavily criticized. It seems a lot of people are getting very upset over a lot of micro detail. There's no way to please all of them. I've upgraded to Tahoe. Honestly, I barely notice any difference. It looks alright. There's very little for me to get upset over here. I'm pretty sure I'm in a bucket that describes the overwhelmingly large ma…

The changes in Tahoe do not fall under the bucket of "no matter how small". We have grown to accept many small, but very annoying changes, starting from disappearing scrollbars to not showing full URL in Safari, to name a few, which were all driven by smaller touchscreens on iPhone/iPad, but with Tahoe things became quite extreme.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by river_otter » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:38 AM UTC

Great first blog post! The corner highlighting in the gifs and images was very clear. Also, I really like the formatting of how you inserted the gifs inline with border radius and shadow effect: I haven't seen blogs with your styling and it was refreshing.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by systemtest » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:39 AM UTC

dabinat wrote: post #339

I noticed Apple’s software quality decline the moment they committed to 1-year release cycles. Because an x.0 release inevitably has issues, it offers less than a year of stability (sometimes only a few months if it takes until x.4 to be fully stable) before things get broken again in y.0. And because Apple stops signing old versions pretty quickly, you’re often stuck on an unstable new version if you take the risk a…

I have been using OS X since 10.4 Tiger. I still remember standing in line at midnight trying to get a copy on DVD. Getting to test all the new features back home in the middle of the night was so exciting! Well worth the €129/€29 they charged for it. Nowadays the yearly releases are more of a "meh". I hit install, they added a new grouping feature to Reminders and that is about all I use from what they added.

Still bitter that my 2006 Core Duo MacBook only had support up to 10.6 Snow Leopard but back then that was over 4 years of being able to use the latest OS, so comparable to four releases with the current cycles.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by worksonmine » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:39 AM UTC

What's going on at Apple? I don't own any Apple devices but the intuitive UI is their biggest selling point (even if a colleague had to explain that I have to drag the program to some window to install it).

This seems like a very strange thing to release for a company that's supposed to care about the details.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by TuxSH » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:41 AM UTC

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #407

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

>Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. Are you just saying that because it has new glassy windows and is a resource hog? What is that different about Tahoe vs Sequoia?

Not OP, but there are plenty of minor annoyances (I had the "pleasure" of upgrading my work laptop to Tahoe) :

- Apple Music requires one more click to pop the multiplayer, UI is worse and the click hitbox for the progress seek bar is too small

- Volume +/- now acts like a notification (top-right corner of screen and clickable). Horrible design decision (gets in the way of browser tabs)

- The "A > B > C" folder thingy at the bottom of Finder windows is gone, and the tabs' styling looks unsettling

- Weather (and Stocks, to a lesser degree) looks worse, lots of space wasted

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by Nextgrid » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:43 AM UTC

Razengan wrote: post #604

socalgal2 wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The support pages are not for you to contact Apple. They are there for users to help other users. The cynical person would say they are there to get unpaid labor from other users so Apple can spend less on support. If you want to report something to Apple you use the "Feedback Assistant App"

> If you want to report something to Apple you use the "Feedback Assistant App" and watch years go by with no fixes or improvements to basic OS fundamentals.

> Feedback Assistant

They finally found a marketable name for /dev/null.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lifetimerubyist » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:45 AM UTC

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #47

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #15

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....with a keyboard? on macos I use Rectangle, on linux I just use the built-in resizing keyboard shortcuts

"I downloaded a separate application to make resizing windows easier" is not a point in favor of MacOS's window resizing decisions.

I never said macOS has good window management.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by embedding-shape » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:47 AM UTC

lurkersince2013 wrote: post #514

rufo wrote: post #416

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Random possibility - if you have Bartender installed, it's buggy as shit on Tahoe, and has some really weird stuff it does with hiding the cursor and otherwise changing the focus around. I haven't switched off yet because the alternatives don't anywhere near as much functionality, but I probably will at some point soon, because while the updates have made it somewhat better it's still a pretty terrible experience at…

Avoid using Bartender: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1d8a0wv/if_you_are... https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/bartender-change-of-ownersh...

Never heard of Bartender before, seems to be this:

> superpowered your menu bar, giving you total control over your menu bar items, what's displayed, and when, with menu bar items only showing when you need them.

Which also, for some reason has permission to record your desktop and recently had a change of owner? I'd be reformatting my computer so quickly if I found this out about software on my computer...

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by morshu9001 » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:50 AM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #386

What's jarring is not even that macOS Tahoe has such weird shapes of windows. What really astonishes me is that nobody seems to have anticipated how users would try to resize windows, and did not reshape the corner drag area (which I would expect to be a quarter-circle, or a quarter-ring along the rounded edge). This can't be a mistake, this can only be deliberate cutting corners by management in order to ship ASAP.…

It did seem like they fixed iOS slowly after 7, where they went too far with flatness.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by reorder9695 » Mon, Jan 12, 2026, 10:52 AM UTC

notenlish wrote: post #577

tgv wrote: post #569

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Linux isn't there (on the desktop), and I doubt it'll ever be. It lacks so much: newbie support, drivers, easy configuration (user friendliness in general), and software. There's so much software that doesn't run on Linux. Linux also lacks mature frameworks that make development for macOS and .NET easy. The only thing desktop linux does well is browsing. That would be enough for most people, but they also have tablet…

User friendliness isnt that bad depending on distro, configuration is fine, but not great.

The big problem isn't friendliness, it's that you don't buy a laptop with it installed. Most people are not realistically going to install a different operating system, they're going to use the one the laptop comes with.