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Re: GPT-5.2

#641

Weirdly, the blog announcement completely omits the actual new context window size which is 400,000: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5.2 Can I just say !!!!!!!! Hell yeah! Blog post indicates it's also much better at using the full context. Congrats OpenAI team. Huge day for you folks!! Started on Claude Code and like many of you, had that omg CC moment we all had. Then got greedy. Switched over to Codex…

have been on 1M context window with claude since 4.0 - it gets pretty expensive when you run 1M context on a long running project (mostly using it in cline for coding). I think they've realized more context length = more $ when dealing with most agentic coding workflows on api.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Maybe you are holding it wrong? Contemporary LLMs still have huge limitations and downsides. Just like hammer or a saw has limitations. But millions of people are getting good value out of them already (both LLMs and hammers and saws). I find it hard to believe that they are all deluded.

What limitations does an hammer have if the job is hammering? Or a saw with sawing? Even `ed` doesn't have any issue with editing text files.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Every Google app is a chat app, except maybe search.

Is Google Drive a chat app? Is Google Photos a drive app? I don’t know what you mean

In Google Photos shared albums there is a tab that I can only describe as a chatroom.

Re: GPT-5.2

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I will say that it is wild, if not somewhat problematic that two users have such disparate views of seemingly the same product. I say that, but then I remember my own experience just from few days ago. I don't pay for gemini, but I have paid chatgpt sub. I tested both for the same product with seemingly same prompt and subbed chatgpt subjectively beat gemini in terms of scope, options and links with current decent de…

Chatgpt is not one model! Unless you manually specify to use a particular model your question can be routed to different models depending on what it guesses would be most appropriate for your question.

Isn’t that just standard MoE behavior? And isn’t the only choice you have from the UI between “Instant” and “Thinking”?

Re: GPT-5.2

#645
Plus users are now defaulted to a faster, less deep GPT-5.2 Thinking mode called “Standard”, and you now have to manually select “Extended” to get back to previous deep thinking level for Plus users. Yet the 3K messages a week quota is the same regardless of thinking level. Also, the selection does not sync to mobile (you know, just not enough RAM in computers these days to persist a setting between web and mobile).

Re: GPT-5.2

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There is no competing product for GPT Voice. Hands down. I have tried Claude, Gemini - they don't even comes close. But voice is not a huge traffic funnel. Text is. And the verdict is more or less unanimous at this time. Gemini 3.0 has outdone ChatGPT. I unsubscribed from GPT plus today. I was a happy camper until the last month when I started noticing deplorable bugs. 1. The conversation contexts are getting intertw…

What's that near free subscription? I don't see it here

They had 9.99 for the first year.

Re: GPT-5.2

#647

Trying it now in Vscode Insiders with Github Copilot (codex crashes with HTTP 400 server errors), and it eventually started using sed and grep in shells instead of using the better tools it has access to. I guess this is not an issue to perform well in benchmarks.

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Re: GPT-5.2

#648

Trying it now in Vscode Insiders with Github Copilot (codex crashes with HTTP 400 server errors), and it eventually started using sed and grep in shells instead of using the better tools it has access to. I guess this is not an issue to perform well in benchmarks.

I get this behavior with a lot with most of the premium models (Gemini 3, Opus 4.5). I think it’s somehow more a GitHub Copilot issue than the models.

Re: GPT-5.2

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I (and others) have a strong suspicion that they can modulate models intelligence in almost real time by adjusting quantization and thinking time. It seems if anyone wants, they can really gas a model up in the moment and back it off after the hype wave.

Quantization is not some magical dial you can just turn. In practice you basically have 3 choices: fp16, fp8 and fp4. Also thinking time means more tokens which costs more especially at the API level where you are paying per token and would be trivially observable. There is basically no evidence that either of these are occurring in the way you suggest (boosting up and down).

API users probably wouldn't be affected since they are paying in full. Most people complaining are free users, followed by $20/mo users.

Re: GPT-5.2

#650

Looks like they've begun censoring posts at r/Codex and not allowing complaint threads so here is my honest take: - It is faster which is appreciated but not as fast as Opus 4.5 - I see no changes, very little noticeable improvements over 5.1 - I do not see any value in exchange for +40% in token costs All in all I can't help but feel that OpenAI is facing an existential crisis. Gemini 3 even when its used from AI St…

Did you notice much improvement going from Gemini 2.5 to 3? I didn't I just think they're all struggling to provide real world improvements

yes, 2.5 just couldnt use tools right. 3.0 is way better at coding. better than sonnet 4.5/
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