Is America's jobs market nearing a cliff?

Post by lotsoweiners » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 1:55 AM UTC

r33b33 wrote: post #350

AIorNot wrote: post #260

Well as a single datum: After I got laid off in late 2023 I had a devil of a time finding work (despite having AI experience) to the point my unemployment ran out - And I was 20 years as a dev and tech lead and full stack, (never had trouble finding work) including stints as a leading EM and CTO, I’ve been an industry award winning innovation lead,a digital studio director, switching tech stacks and cloud certs all m…

Are you ready for great age of suffering? Because there will be no saving, no UBI, no plan B. This is it. This is the end of careers and beginning of centuries of misery. AI will replace everyone except around 3%. If you aren't one of those 3%, start accepting the reality of infinite pain.

Post by raw_anon_1111 » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 2:00 AM UTC

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raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #479

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No one knows you here. Give some real numbers. How much are you paying for housing? What’s your gross pay?

Numbers don't matter. If you can save 80% of your paycheck for 15-20 years and you invest it wisely, you are FI on the 4% rule.

Post by coolThingsFirst » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 3:30 AM UTC

tarsinge wrote: post #465

forgotoldacc wrote: post #429

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No. Impressive candidates are applying to jobs that pay somewhat reasonably, even if it's below what they expect. If candidates who are desperate are still completely skipping over a company, that says something about that company.

I am also hiring, in Europe with very good work/life balance but modest salaries and like the parent I'm also not that impressed with candidates, so to me the other explanation is that candidates have a wildly incorrect estimation of what is a somewhat reasonable pay in 2025. The position with FAANG like salaries have reduced drastically. Companies paying 6 figures just to have the privilege to have an entry level de…

Post by thereWasAFish » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 3:36 AM UTC

Post by senordevnyc » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 6:03 AM UTC

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This is so condescending and infantilizing of young people. Of course many of them have it hard. They’re not the first, and they won’t be the last, but they’ll figure it out. I graduated right before the collapse in 2008, and I’ve spent the last 17 years hustling, scraping, and clawing to make, save, and invest every dollar I could. It wasn’t easy, and after a divorce and a recent layoff, it’s still not. Particularly…

What's condescending is telling a whole generation of people who are working two jobs and barely able to make rent to "save". I'm older than you and now doing fine AND able to save/invest but after multiple once-in-a-lifetime events that reset all of my progress each time, the last thing I need to hear from some out-of-touch old person is bullshit avocado toast pull yourself up by your bootstraps comments.