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Post by lkbm »

anonbuddy wrote: post #573
atonse wrote: post #295

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Email is one of the most disruptive systems to switch. Even at our small scale I wouldn’t want to be locked out of something. Then again there’s also the sign in with google type stuff that keeps us further locked in.

if email is hard to switch, imagine how hard would it be for your memories to migrate to new platform

Infinitely easier?

The challenge in migrating email isn't that you have to move the existing email messages; any standard email client will download them all for you. The challenge is that there are thousands of external people and systems pointing to your email address.

Your LLMs memory is roughly analogous to the existing email messages. It's not stored in the contacts of hundreds of friends and acquaintances, or used to log in to each of a thousand different services. It's all contained in a single system, just like your email messages are.

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Post by bonoboTP »

tylerrobinson wrote: post #379
bob1029 wrote: post #102

> Pulse introduces this future in its simplest form: personalized research and timely updates that appear regularly to keep you informed. Soon, Pulse will be able to connect with more of the apps you use so updates capture a more complete picture of your context. We’re also exploring ways for Pulse to deliver relevant work at the right moments throughout the day, whether it’s a quick check before a meeting, a reminde…

To me it’s more like TikTokification. Nothing on your mind? Open up ChatGPT and we have infinite mindless content to shovel into your brain. It turns proactive writing into purely passive consumption.

This seems right. The classic recipe of enshittification. You start with the a core of tech-adjacent power users, then expand to more regular but curious and creative people, but then to grow further you need to capture the attention and eyeballs of people who don't do any mentally engaged activity on their phone (or desktop, but it's almost always phone), and just want to turn off their brain and scroll. TikTok was the first to truly understand this, and now all platforms converge to short-form algorithmic feeds with the only interaction being a flick of a finger to "skip", or stare at the thing.

If people only pull out ChatGPT when they have some specific thing to ask or solve, that won't be able to compete with the eyeball-time of TikTok. So ChatGPT has to become an algorithmic feed too.

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Post by latexr »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #636
latexr wrote: post #627

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Making your writing itself boring and the same as everyone’s who used that technique, transforming it into something no one will want to read anyway.

You pretty much jumped to the most negative possible interpretation. You think there isn't an editing process?

There is no editing process during a first draft, no. That’s the whole point of a draft, it’s a separate process from revisions and editing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drafting_(writing)

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Post by mrcwinn »

glouwbug wrote: post #323
jasonsb wrote: post #66

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> I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels like blockchain again in a lot of weird ways. It doesn't feel like blockchain at all. Blockchain is probably the most useless technology ever invented (unless you're a criminal or an influencer who makes ungodly amounts of money off of suckers). AI is a powerful tool for those who are willing to put in the work. People who have the time, knowledge and crit…

This is funny, because my personal view is that AI’s biggest pitfall is that it allows the unqualified to build what they think they’re qualified for

Yes, learning and creating should be reserved only for the licensed!

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Post by [deleted] »

jama211 wrote: post #145
jsheard wrote: post #76

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> My personal productivity has skyrocketed in the last 12 months. Has your productivity objectively, measurably improved or does it just feel like it has improved? Recall the METR study which caught programmers self-reporting they were 20% faster with AI when they were actually 20% slower.

Not this again. That study had serious problems. But I’m not even going to argue about that. I want to raise something no one else seems to mention about AI in coding work. I do a lot of work now with AI that I used to code by hand, and if you told me I was 20% slower on average, I would say “that’s totally fine it’s still worth it” because the EFFORT level from my end feels so much less. It’s like, a robot vacuum mi…

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Post by lionkor »

munksbeer wrote: post #635
gyomu wrote: post #539

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Their point is that ChatGPT is clearly maximizing for engagement with the product, rather than working as a straightforward tool that aims to solve your problem at hand as fast and efficiently as possible. The decision to begin every response with “that’s a fascinating observation” and end every response with “want me to do X?” is a clear decision by PMs at OpenAI. Poster is questioning what might motivate those deci…

You tell it to stop doing that.

This only works as long as they let you

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Post by Zagreus2142 »

wussboy wrote: post #199
blks wrote: post #182

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Often someone’s personal productivity with AI means someone else have to dig through their piles of rubbish to review PR they committed. In your particular case it sounds like you’re rapidly loosing your developer skills, and enjoy that now you have to put less effort and think less.

We know that relying heavily on Google Maps makes you less able to navigate without Google Maps. I don't think there's research on this yet, but I would be stunned if the same process isn't at play here.

Yeah this definitely matches my experience and guess what? Google maps sucks for public transit and isn't actually that good for pedestrian directions (often pointing people to "technically" accessible paths like sketchy sidewalks on busy arterial roads signed for 35mph where people go 50mph). I stopped using Google maps instinctually and now only use it for public transit or drives outside of my city. Doing so has made me a more attentive driver, less lazy, less stressed when unexpected issues on the road occur, restored my navigation skills, and made me a little less of, frankly, an adult man child.

Applying all of this to LLMs has felt similar.

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Post by labrador »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #453
labrador wrote: post #78

No desktop version. I know I'm old, but do people really do serious work on small mobile phone screens? I love my glorious 43" 4K monitor, I hate small phone screens but I guess that's just me.

Chat based LLMs are not about doing serious work (I might even argue LLMs in general are not suited for serious work). I much much rather have my LLM "assistant" as flawed as it is with me all the time than be tethered to a computer

I do coding on mine which to me is serious work. Not vibe coding, more like pair programming. Anyway, I'm saying "why not both?" desktop and mobile, not one or the other

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Post by bonoboTP »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #596
bonoboTP wrote: post #184

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Obviously a lot of grifters and influencers shifted from NFTs to AI, but the comparison ends there. AI is being used by normal people and professionals every day. In comparison, the number of people who ever interacted with blockchain is basically zero. (And that's a lifetime vs daily comparison) It's a lazy comparison, and most likely fueled by a generic aversion to "techbros".

That aversion to "techbros" comes from people who constantly oversell whatever the current thing is for personal benefit, and these technologies come up short time and time again. The "techbros" as a consort have proven themselves not to be trusted. Say what you want about AI, it's hard to argue that it isn't oversold constantly. I sincerely doubt it would continue to exist without a stream of VC money to sustain it…

Everything is oversold, even the useful things. Nuclear, space, genetic engineering, x rays, vaccines, the internet itself, personal computers, phones and apps, etc. etc.

If something is of value X, the hype will be X+Y. That's why this is too shallow an analyis. It's just vibes, based on cultural feelings and emotional annoyance.

AI is nothing like blockchain.

It's fine to be anti-AI, but the smart anti-AI people recognize that the real danger is it will have too large an impact (but in the negative). Not that it will evaporate some investment dollars.

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