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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by danans »

wayeq wrote: post #535
randmeerkat wrote: post #496

Wow, a phone with a battery that's so bad, they're selling an extra one to strap to the back of it, on launch day... The most innovative thing that Apple has done recently is figuring out how to have their CEO deliver a gift wrapped gold bar to the president. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbEsY-YpF1E&t=133s

man that is depressing

> man that is depressing

Only if you had a misconception about what and whom the big tech CEOs represent. Otherwise these actions are very expected in an oligarchic society.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by p1necone »

Can I get regular thickness but twice the battery life instead? "All day battery life" is the bare minimum dressed up as a feature - I get at least two out of my cheap android.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by RajT88 »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #200
apriljo wrote: post #127

I'd be paranoid all the time about breaking it by accidentally sitting on it. Thinner just means it won't have as much strength to resist being bent into an ass-shaped curve, right?

i'm sure most people reacted like you in focus groups. I dont know how many times they said "its our most durable phone" and "its so strong" etc. Got to be a way to directly counter this first impression.

Well. iPhone 17 Pro they sell cases for 59 dollars.

I assume the cases for iPhone Air will be 100 dollars.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

foobarian wrote: post #229
dzink wrote: post #208

This has a couple of up sides. 1. Biggest is that Apple can finally tell if people really want a thinner phone (I don’t). Maybe once they find out the answer, they can finally start using the space more productively. 2. They mentioned local LLM in passing, but this is the biggest possible selling point of the executives actually back real work on making them consumer-level easy. Have a LLM marketplace. Let users sub-…

Sigh. I can't stand the camera bump. I would run not walk to the nearest Apple store with all my savings if they made a phone where the camera bump is made flush by adding thickness elsewhere to match, filled with extra battery. Thing would last for weeks. Ah well back to reality.

Could you just buy a case that adds the thickness to get rid of the bump? Much cheaper and easier than waiting on apple to do it.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by giarc »

p1necone wrote: post #642

Can I get regular thickness but twice the battery life instead? "All day battery life" is the bare minimum dressed up as a feature - I get at least two out of my cheap android.

Unless you can deliver multi-day battery, it's useless to provide anything more than all day battery. If the battery can only last 1.5 days for example, then the user is stuck trying to find a charge in the middle of the day. All day battery means they just need to charge overnight (which most users already do).

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by nsonha »

AdventureMouse wrote: post #582
aurareturn wrote: post #58

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

> If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, then the era of viable local LLM inferencing is upon us. I don't think local LLMs will ever be a thing except for very specific use cases. Servers will always have way more compute power than edge nodes. As server power increases, people will expect more and more of the LLMs and edge node compute will stay irrelevant since their relative power w…

local LLM may not be good enough for answering questions (which I think won't be true really soon) or generating images, but it today should be good enough to infer deeplinks and app extension calls or agentic walk-through... and ushers a new era of controlling phone by voice command.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by crossroadsguy »

At this point I am like “fuck (perception of) privacy!”. I will just buy the 9a, or Pixel 10a if one releases by the time I switch from my (already large) iPhone 14. At least I won’t have to deal with the never ending shenanigans, the crazy prices, and the very real possibility that if there’s a damage it might be cheaper to buy a new one (in warranty).

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by temp0826 »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #196
woah wrote: post #103

Incredible lift-to-weight ratio is going to contribute to epic hang times from this thing while the camera bump provides a center of gravity for it to rotate around for predictable flight paths.

Talking about using this thing as a boomerang?

For the reference...there was an app (I think it's banned on all the stores now?) that used the phone's sensors to record its hangtime when thrown in the air (pending it survived the landing, I guess). I think there was a scoreboard?

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by re »

giarc wrote: post #645
p1necone wrote: post #642

Can I get regular thickness but twice the battery life instead? "All day battery life" is the bare minimum dressed up as a feature - I get at least two out of my cheap android.

Unless you can deliver multi-day battery, it's useless to provide anything more than all day battery. If the battery can only last 1.5 days for example, then the user is stuck trying to find a charge in the middle of the day. All day battery means they just need to charge overnight (which most users already do).

> Unless you can deliver multi-day battery, it's useless to provide anything more than all day battery

The battery time estimates are based on certain usage patterns, not 100% utilization of power-hungry apps. A battery that can last "36 hours" can offer more real-world usage per day than one that only lasts for 24.

Edit: Looks like the only estimates Apple provides any more are video playback hours, which is much more power-efficient than general app usage and internet browsing.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by ryukoposting »

arcane23 wrote: post #593
jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

Doubt most people want it as thin as possible. This is just the phone industry running out of ideas and trying to tell people what they actually need. There's not much left to "fix" on mobile phones, and no real important features to add. Lacking that, they need something to sell the phones with, so they're going for these strange "improvements". It needs to be something that has some wow factor so they can lead with…

You can see the logical conclusion to this phenomenon with vacuum cleaners. Pointless little buttons and switches that don't do much, labels and fancy names for things that any vacuum can do, and aesthetics that prioritize a futuristic form over function.
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