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Post by komali2 »

FredPret wrote: post #640
komali2 wrote: post #598

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What makes you think these companies can be toppled, considering they practically write our legislation? https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/apple-inc/summary?id=D00002... What capitalistic mechanism allows a garage startup to compete with a company worth $3,000,000,000,000 ? Surely you've seen this in Silicon Valley: the infamous way Google (or whoever) kills your startup by releasing your product for free, waiting for…

There's no need for me to prove that this can happen because, as I pointed out, it already has happened many times, from Xerox to HP to Dell to IBM. It's happening right now at Oracle. You can see the very earliest stages at Apple and Google.

Apple and Google control the internet, through controlling web search and browsing. One pays the other to ensure this monopoly. And none of the companies you mentioned were worth 3 trillion, and last I checked they all continue to exist and hold reasonable market share, and none of them taking market share from another is a case of a garage startup knocking off a monopolist.

The modern tech company is more akin to Standard Oil, but possibly even more powerful and all encompassing considering Google for example can determine what is true and false for a given population. Standard Oil was only able to be toppled by a State.

So again, what capitalist mechanism exists to allow a garage startup to knock over apple or Google? I completely agree with you that Google is enshittifying - my disagreement is that anything will happen about that unless a State intervenes.

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Post by brookst »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #553
brookst wrote: post #521

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No. Apple does not sign up for an Apple Developer account. Contracts with oneself aren't even meaningful. This is a common tech enthusiast fallacy: thinking that law is code. So there must be some "if app published, there must be a developer account, and if the developer account violates the rule the app must be removed". It just doesn't work that way. Apple has contracts with third parties to allow them to distribut…

Law is absolutely fuzzy code. Lawyers are people that try to grok the legal API in as many languages as possible. Code is a great analogy.

No, it’s really not. The law is not intended to be deterministic or efficient, and it is neither. Law explicitly leaves room for human judgment and context in ways code doesn’t and shouldn’t.

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Post by rjst01 »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #592
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I had to completely turn off notifications for Instagram because none of the provided settings appear to disable the almost-daily "for you" and "trending" notifications. Now I don't get notified when someone DMs me there, which has lead to me missing important messages.

On Android: 1. your profile icon (bottom right) > hamburger menu (top right) > Notifications > Posts, stories, and comments > turn off ‘Posts suggested for you’ and ‘Notes’ 2. on the same screen, set ‘First posts and stories’ to ‘From people I follow’ 3. back out to Notifications > Live and reels > turn off ‘Recently uploaded reels’ and ‘Reels suggested for you’ This works for me, but if you’re still getting notifica…

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm on iOS but the notification settings look the same.

I already had all but one of the settings you mentioned disabled, along with most of the others. I'll report back in a day or two.

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Post by rchaud »

kortilla wrote: post #477
rchaud wrote: post #400

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Why not just use the mobile website then? An app icon is itself equivalent to having a billboard on your homescreen. What is the app providing besides notifications that necessitates its use?

Mobile websites are often either non existent or work far worse than the app.

I haven't found this to be true for any app that just shows text and images.

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Post by Sylamore »

anitil wrote: post #580
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Resido - the app for honeywell smart thermostats - requires notifications to be enabled to view or manage your thermostat settings or run time history. This is relatively recent because I had disabled notifications over a year ago due to it pushing ads to me. The good news is you can limit it to only showing badges, but you have to at least have that enabled or it just freezes on a blank screen after telling you to e…

I refuse to allow any smart device in my house. Even my oven is getting out over its boots lately

It was annoying because my previous house had some z-wave enabled thermostats I could manage through the alarm system without any of that BS, I thought the honeywell in this rental would be nicer but all it's done is confirm I'll be using something other than honeywell controls in my next house.

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Post by Xss3 »

Veen wrote: post #301
Xss3 wrote: post #142

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Such a false dichotomy that open automatically means insecure and leaky due to user error. Sensible defaults and warnings about changing them is all you need to put any argument of 'bad for privacy' down.

It’s not a dichotomy, but an observation about how data privacy tends to work in the real world. You can easily refute it with practical examples of how openness has actually improved privacy for the average user relative to Apple’s closed, managed privacy programs. Would an average non-technical Apple user be exposed to higher or lower security and privacy risk if they moved from Apple platforms to open platforms?

It is a dichotomy though as its confusing correlation with causation.

There is no causal relationship between open platforms and being bad for privacy. Look at bluesky vs facebook.

Just because android failed in some ways doesnt mean apples way is better. Its a duopoly. There are open source alternatives focused on privacy...with very low user bases.

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Post by ericmay »

ta1243 wrote: post #604
ericmay wrote: post #423

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You're thinking about how you use your phone, not how most people use their phone. The reason people continue to upgrade their phones isn't always mindless consumerism. For example, when you write: > Headphones? My 25 year old phone will do that. Bluetooth? I'm fairly sure my 3GS did that. Sadly modern phones don't do wired headphones any more, so have regressed on that metric. You're already showing me how you don't…

Nobody I know buys a new phone until the battery dies on the old one. Are you saying that modern airpods don't do bluetooth? And aren't supported on the iphone 11? People have used bluetooth headphones for 20 years. Why would apply regress? > Yea man. That feature existed on Windows 3.1, ergo nobody should or would want to buy the next iPhone. The point is it's software, which will run just as fine on a supercomputer…

> Nobody I know buys a new phone until the battery dies on the old one.

Ok, well now you know one. I buy new phones even when they work just fine.

> Are you saying that modern airpods don't do bluetooth? And aren't supported on the iphone 11? People have used bluetooth headphones for 20 years. Why would apply regress?

You're not familiar with the products, are you? Folks buy products like AirPods Pro (https://www.apple.com/airpods-pro/) because they have features that they want which aren't necessarily compatible with older phones, for a variety of reasons.

> > Nearly nine in 10 adults think buying the latest smartphone is a “waste of money”. Research polling 2,000 Britons revealed more than half are “bored” of trying to keep up-to-date with the latest tech. And three in four are no longer willing to pay a fortune to get it. As a result, almost a third intend to spend less on smartphones and other gadgets over the next two years.

Most people say the same thing about social media but can't be bothered to delete the accounts that they supposedly never use. I don't think this is relevant to the main point I made which was that people do in fact use their phones for more than "the basics" and they (not me) justify the purchase of a new phone for new features. Your iPhone 11 isn't the same phone as an iPhone 16. The iPhone 16 has a better camera, has different chips, different and better features, etc. and many folks take advantage of those features.

> The point is it's software, which will run just as fine on a supercomputer from 2 years ago as it will on today. What features does an iphone 15 (14? 16? whatever) have that an 11 doesn't have to allow these features?

If you don't know what the difference is between an iPhone 11 and an iPhone 16, then why are you commenting here? You're basically saying "I don't know anything about these phones, but I am sure that people don't need the new one because it's no different, but I also can't tell you the difference or anything about them". Do you not see how asinine that is?

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Post by ericmay »

Greed wrote: post #562
ericmay wrote: post #423

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You're thinking about how you use your phone, not how most people use their phone. The reason people continue to upgrade their phones isn't always mindless consumerism. For example, when you write: > Headphones? My 25 year old phone will do that. Bluetooth? I'm fairly sure my 3GS did that. Sadly modern phones don't do wired headphones any more, so have regressed on that metric. You're already showing me how you don't…

But are any of those things a strong enough motivator to warrant the average person paying several hundred dollars more for an incrementally improved device? You haven't really made a strong argument for why a user might upgrade specifically and immediately for those features, besides that they exist. Certainly the average person is upgrading over time as components break or fail, but why is it that you think the ave…

The OP wrote:

> I have a 6 year old phone that was cheap when it was new, and it still runs 100% of what I use my phone for, and most people use their phones for, perfectly.

They made the claim, you should ask them for evidence instead.

Given that Apple continues to create new features that are only available on certain iPhones and market those functions and features heavily, we can guess that people buy new iPhones at least in part for those features.

We also know that not all features available on an iPhone today are available on all iPhones. For example, the original iPhone doesn't have the chipset required to do tap-to-pay transactions. The iPhone 11 (I'm guessing it's 6 years old and the one OP was referring to) can't play whatever the latest games are with the same performance with respect to graphics and battery life, as another example. While I don't care, many people do and spend quite a lot of money gaming on their iPhones. Think about all the new accessories that people use as well.

I don't want to suggest that I necessarily find those things valuable or that they are a reason to upgrade, but it seems very weak to suggest that other people don't value those things.

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Post by ericmay »

rocketvole wrote: post #207
ericmay wrote: post #196

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> I have a 6 year old phone that was cheap when it was new, and it still runs 100% of what I use my phone for, and most people use their phones for, perfectly. Just to be clear your suggesting that your 6 year old iPhone runs a suit of social media apps, full graphics games like Minecraft (or whatever the hell people play these days I don’t know), fitness apps, connects to the latest audio devices like Apple’s AirPod…

I have an iPhone 8. It does literally everything you've listed, and the battery is cheap/easy to replace. My lg v30, with a battery replacement is about the same (albiet with a custom os since androids didn't get many years of updates back then)

Can you do tap-to-pay on iPhone 8?

You can't play the latest games with the same performance and battery life on your iPhone 8 (if at all) as you can on the latest iPhone. You might not care about that but there are lots of people who do. Same with pictures. Do you have cinema mode on your iPhone 8? No you don't. For some that's a reason to upgrade - they really care about the features and quality of the camera.

I don't see what the debate is here. This is very obvious and become more obvious and true the older the iPhone is.

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Post by pas »

vinceguidry wrote: post #618
labster wrote: post #431

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I don’t know man, I would have believed this wholeheartedly ten years ago. But people are choosing true authoritarianism in droves. People just keep voting for Trump, Orban, Erdogan, and Le Pen. Trump is extremely transactional. All of which is great news for China, and a great victory for their ‘do nothing: win’ policy.

Orban just tried to ban the yearly Pride parade and inadvertently turned it into the largest protest against his rule ever. Trump barely took the election and may have even stolen it, if recent news is to be believed.

meh, not like protests work

see Tblisi or Belgrade :(

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