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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by bambax »

> using an advanced analytics package I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video, and by September there will be no videos at all on the homepage

Ah, the same advanced analytics package used by most consultancies and all politicians, which consists in prolonging a trend as a straight line until it reaches then end of times, and beyond.

The same very powerful analytics package that was recently used by AI fanboys to predict AI will consume 100% of the world electricity in a few years.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by fuzztester »

fuzztester wrote: post #547
Levitating wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It resets itself every 15 days or so Are you saying that YouTube just alters your preferences?

not op, but have seen the same. this is quite bad behaviour. they should not sneakily change our preferences behind the backs. similarly, all notifications, advertisements, et cetera, should be opt in, not opt out. many of these cos. do this sort of thing, of course. they excuse it under the protect of company policy. Google the ant letter as an example.

>they excuse it under the protect of company policy.

sorry, pretext, not protect. an autocorrect error.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by badestrand »

matsemann wrote: post #166
rozab wrote: post #46

For a long time the grid of videos on the homepage has been slightly misaligned. I imagine the different rows belong to different teams. This means you can't hover your mouse in the gaps between columns while you scroll to prevent videos autoplaying when moused over. I find the autoplay so annoying because it hides the thumbnail which was carefully designed to communicate why I should click on the video and replaces…

What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

> What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely.

As a counterpoint I love that feature on desktop and use it all the time.

Often I don't even click videos but just watch them with the preview autoplay (with sound enabled). I also zoom in on my mousepad so that it covers the whole screen and I only need to click through to like the video or for the comments. Much more seemless experience for me.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by collingreen »

deepsun wrote: post #616
abirch wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I don’t, there are 100 other people who would do it

Those we literally words of Japanese Kamikazes in WW2. If not me, then someone else will die anyway.

It would be funny to compare suicide bombing to a dev implementing features their team is working on even if they don't sound good to that particular dev if it wasn't so sad and offensive.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by Zanfa »

gorbachev wrote: post #426
InMice wrote: post #49

Thank you for writing this post! I opened youtube a few days ago to this as well. On a 24" 1440p monitor its ridiculous. It's incomprehensible there's a UI/UX team that gets paid millions of dollars per year and the result is changes like this. Thank you again for writing this post. After searching it seems like they've been "testing" this in segments for a while now. As a result I installed the "Control Panel for Yo…

You assume the UX team has any say in any of this. Some of the revelations from the various lawsuits against Google by the US and other governments over the years have been about this. The company replaced leaders who cared about users with leaders who cared about revenue optimization and those leaders changed the direction of the company to what we all see in all of their products these days.

Their design/UX team 100% had a hand in it. Just look at Google's design blog, it's complete dogshit.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by _lvbh »

globular-toast wrote: post #635
_lvbh wrote: post #583

Use invidious. Youtube has gotten so bloated it takes seconds just to navigate between pages and load videos

Invidious and many other third party players are currently completely broken due to YouTube rolling out a new proprietary streaming protocol.

There are working fixes - and the new protocol, although not implemented in invidious - has a few open source implementations. I cobbled together one to integrate with invidious yesterday before swapping back to DASH after they fixed it. If they ever disable DASH for all the other clients, there are fallbacks in place

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by andriesm »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #376
princevegeta89 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile? There's also another sneaky piece of crap Google pulls - even if you're a Premium user and set your video preferences to high quality, they only play videos for you at 480p, even though higher resolutions up to 4k are all available. If you manually increase the quality on that video, it will only apply for that video, and whatever videos you play next, will still be limited to 480p. All this is just to save c…

I have Premium and I always get a high resolution, if my connection allows for it.

My problem is I get high resolution (1080p) even if I want 240p!

I might be traveling and be on very expensive 3g data, and want to listen to a video and not care about the display but low quality setting means little when you are a premium user.

You have to explicitly change video resolution every time the next video starts playing.

You cannot choose explicit resolution preferences like you used to.

And I get no difference in what happens to resolutions chosen for me between these two quality settings. Seems random/non-deterministic.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by andriesm »

eastbound wrote: post #445
krisoft wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can’t scroll with my cursor on the page without crap happening that I don’t want to happen. Same stuff with the mobile youtube app. If you so much as graze the screen anywhere while watching a video the replay speed doubles. This is so sensitive that even a tiny unintentional finger touch, or a water droplet landing on the screen triggers it. Whoever thought that is a good idea as a feature, i can’t comprehend. P…

Couple this with the no-bezel iPhones, and there is no way to hold your phone without touching the screen and accelerating the video (or clicking on ads).

I agree, this obsession with filling the entire surface area with touch-sensitive display, and the quest for zero edge bevel width, is the bane of usability, often the soft fleshy part of your hand holding on the edge folds over and marginally makes contact with the screen, and then the screen ignores all your tops from your other hand that you explicitly makes.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by vultour »

ysavir wrote: post #84
dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

The games, too. Clicking to hide them hides them for at most 30 days, then you have to tell them once more that it's of no interest.

The button to hide shorts now says something like "Show less" instead of the 30 days it had previously, and clicking it does absolutely nothing. It disappears from the current page but comes straight back after a reload.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by imtringued »

matsemann wrote: post #166
rozab wrote: post #46

For a long time the grid of videos on the homepage has been slightly misaligned. I imagine the different rows belong to different teams. This means you can't hover your mouse in the gaps between columns while you scroll to prevent videos autoplaying when moused over. I find the autoplay so annoying because it hides the thumbnail which was carefully designed to communicate why I should click on the video and replaces…

What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

Autoplay has been broken since major browsers have silently added autoplay permissions. The fundamental problem with autoplay is that the getAutoplayPolicy() query is still a draft and only experimentally implemented in Firefox.

There is no way to handle autoplay correctly. It's simply been broken for the past few years. There is also no way to detect autoplay using workarounds. I.e. autoplaying a silent audio, because you can only prove the existence of autoplay, but never its absence, since autoplay could be delayed for whatever reason and happen outside of your timeout based hack.

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