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Is it a failure when everyone writes javascript/html/css instead of doing native applications for non gaming? Most of HN seems to think using a web browser as a translation layer is a good idea, yet they complain when games use a translation layer.
Yes, definitely, that is why now we have ChromeOS developers instead of Web developers.
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#642And maybe I’m a minority but the latest macOS is not worse than previous editions, for instance I use Sequoia on a M1 Mac but also 10.4 Tiger and OS 9.2.2 on a PowerMac G4 (MDD, 2x 1.2Ghz with 2Go of RAM) and the stability is not worse on Sequoia than Tiger or 9.2.2, in fact I have encountered more crashes in 9.2.2 and Tiger than Sequoia and all macOS 11+ (except Big Sur who has rough edge on beginning on M1 device)
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Yet most games don't make use of Unreal targeting capabilities of GNU/Linux, rather Proton.
Unreal can target Linux, sure, but not all of the plugins you might use will, nor any of your own plugins. Unreal is almost worse because their first party tools (UGS, Horde) will not work on Linux, so you have to treat linux as a console, and honestly the market share isn't there to justify it.
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#644There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…
Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased I think the decline of software went hand-in-hand with the decline of the native indie Mac app. They still exist, but when I started with the Mac (2007), there was a very rich ecosystem of native Mac apps. Most stood head and shoulders above their Linux and Windows counterparts. Apple has nearly destroyed that ecosystem with:…
I'm on the same boat here. Something is driving me away from my MacBook M1(Pro? Don't even know). I have a gut feeling that it's macOS but can't really put a finger on it yet.
Bought a heavily used ThinkPad T480s (from 2018) and replaced almost every replaceable part of it, including the screen. Being able to replace many parts easily is a nice touch since I am using MacBooks since 2007 exclusively. Guess that's why I somehow overdid it here. Slammed Pop!_OS 22.04 on it and I'm very pleased with the result. The first Linux desktop I actually enjoy since trying SuSE 5-something. Pain points are teams (running in browser), bad audio quality with AirPods when using the microphone and cpu speed and heat. I guess one has to stop using Apple silicon in laptops to realize how amazing these processors are.
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Yes, definitely, that is why now we have ChromeOS developers instead of Web developers.
You better have made this comment via a native windows hacker news desktop application.
I miss the days of native apps with Internet protocols, and USENET discussions.
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The difference: in Linux it is a usability issue to be fixed, whereas on macOS it is a feature and explicit design goal to make it that way. In general, I have found that things which are difficult on Linux are so because the problem is difficult, not because the people who make my computer have paternalistic attitudes about my usage of it.
So it’s purely ideological without any real world difference? Are most people better off with Apple defaults? And it’s not because the problem is “difficult”. It’s because for 20 years it has been claimed that this will be the “year of Linux on the Desktop” and it’s never been good enough for most people.
The problem with Linux is that, while it’s very good, it’s different.
Nobody actually cares how intuitive something is, at least not in absolute. People will still say Windows is intuitive. Pretty much nothing in Windows, from the registry to COM to IIS to setting/control panel/computer management, is intuitive. But they know how to use it and are used to that particular brand of buggy inconsistency.
Linux desktops have been high quality for a long time now. The reality is you, and others, measure quality as “how much is it like windows” or “how much of it is like macOS”. When that’s your metric, Linux will always come up short, just by definition.
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The actual argument would be people voting with their wallets and moving away from the Apple ecosystem, but this something impossible at least in the USA due to these bullshit "blue bubbles"
This is absurd. You quite clearly don’t experience “blue bubble” envy yourself, because you’ve so obviously corrupted the sentiment, and argument. Nobody is saying “gosh, macOS is so damned unstable, but I’ve gotta use it, because…blue bubbles on my iPhone? You’ve just read some story about a company you already hate and are parroting it.
It's not just "blue bubbles," but "blue bubbles" seems like a good shorthand to me. It's also things like Hand-off, or Universal Control, or getting Messages on both iPhone and Mac seamlessly, or being on the same WiFi network allowing your iPhone/Watch to work as a tv remote for the Apple TV even if you're just visiting a friend. Features that any platform can and does enable, but that do to Apples vertical can work seamlessly out of the box, across all the product lines, while securing network access in the ways most users will want, creating a continuous buy-in loop wherein the more Apple products you buy, the more incentive there is to buy exclusively Apple.
And it's a collective "you." If your entire family uses exclusively Apple products, then you'll be the only person who can't easily use eg the Apple TV in the living room, or the person "messing up" the group chats with "User reacted with Emoji Heart to [3 paragraph text message]," or the one trying to decide between competing network KVM software platforms so that you can use your tablet when your 12-yo can just set their tablet next to their laptop and get a second screen without any setup. Nevermind that these are all social engineering techniques that only exist BECAUSE Apple chose not to play nice with others, they still socially reinforce a deeper commitment to Apple products with each additional Apple product in the ecosystem.
I say this as someone "stuck in the blue bubble" with eyes open about what's going on. I'll keep picking Apple as long as they're a hardware-oriented company, because their incentives are best aligned with mine for the consumer features they are delivering (for now): consumer integration that sells hardware. It's insidious in its own way, but not like "hardware that sells eyeballs" (Google/Meta) or "business integration that sells compliance" (Microsoft).
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Where is Windows Proton like for Playstation APIs? "Technical issues" has many meanings.
The point is, "the platform those games were designed for" is the Playstation API for some titles. So you'll get the best experience on there. Unless you play benchmarks instead of games, and care about 8k/1200 fps of course.
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Sadly, because many of the authors live stuck in UNIX cli model instead of Xerox PARC REPL approach. It is like praising Ratatui for what Turbo Vision, Clipper and curses were doing in 1990's, if I wanted that I would kept using Xenix and MS-DOS.
REPL-ify your command line then? There's nothing that says you have to be stuck on bash for your command line needs. https://www.nushell.sh/
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I have some hope that Framework and AMD can fix some of those issues. Would love to try out their new desktop (because it's a simpler, more tightly integrated thing) and replace my Mac mini -- then wait for Linux power management to improve.
Linux power management is pretty good. The problem is that defaults favor desktop and server performance. On a MacBook Air 11, my custom Linux setup and Mac OS had the same battery autonomy, despite Safari being much more energy efficient. The real problem is that, just like the grandparent post pointed out, Apple's software quality has been declining. The Tiger to Snow Leopard epoch was incredible. Apps were simple,…
Nahh, robustness comes from the time you can spend refining the product not from some magic property of a language. That can help but just a bit. There was no Swift in Snow Leopard. Nor there is not much Rust in Linux (often none) and even less (none) in one of the most stable OS available, FreeBSD.
They should just release a new version when the product is ready and not when the marketing says to release it.