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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Are you promoting some kind of conspiracy theory that Apple is using some people's devices to do inference for other people's devices? There's absolutely zero evidence of that, and it would be easy to observe it happening. So why are you pushing some kind of totally false narrative?

Maybe there's zero evidence now, but think about the lengths to which Apple has gone to build a private cloud infrastructure and why they would do so. It's one thing for them to offer that as a do-gooder service to their customers, which it certainly is. But once it's established as private and secure, why wouldn't they use spare compute at the edge for inference? It's smart. It's not a conspiracy.

> think about the lengths to which Apple has gone to build a private cloud infrastructure

None? I don't know what you're referring to. Apple's not running any kind of cloud on my private device. Their Private Cloud Compute is about running inference on Apple's cloud but with privacy guarantees -- not on consumer devices.

> It's one thing for them to offer that as a do-gooder service to their customers, which it certainly is.

Again, no idea what you're talking about. Who's doing good to who? Apple's providing a service to get you to buy their hardware. Consumers aren't doing good for other consumers.

> why wouldn't they use spare compute at the edge for inference? It's smart.

You're talking about on people's devices? Because it would use up their battery and heat up their devices and connectivity can be spotty which leads to terrible latency. I mean, that would be as bad as secretly mining Bitcoin on people's devices. How would that ever be smart?

And Apple's in the business of selling hardware. Not helping people save money by sharing hardware. You can't even share an iPad with different logins for family members.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery"

According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

I don’t understand—if the frame is in the middle why can’t the MagSafe go on the outside?

It can. You can get a case that simply adds the MagSafe(/Qi2) alignment magnets and then you've got a MagSafe device (albeit limited to 7.5W charging)

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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So you want a feature in a device that you're going to use for a single purpose one time? How many times do you need to map your house once you have the map? There's gotta be a better single use device for purpose rather than having it limit your options for a non-single purpose device.

Yes.

I'm applying your yes response to the final question of there's gotta be a better way than your request for an rarely used feature in a reduced feature device.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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If small phones are difficult, why are phones getting larger as battery and semiconductor tech continues to improve? Advances in tech should allow phones to be smaller than ever for the same capabilities, or more capabilities for the same size than ever before.

“Big screen goooood” - social media addicted consumers

I had a couple of Max models but went back down to regular size because it was too big. However, Mini is just too small for me to handle well any more. I make too many mistakes on the smaller on-screen keyboard, and forget reading on it without putting on my glasses first.

I could't care less what size other people use, and I use social media maybe half an hour a day, if that. The regular sized iPhones are the happy size for my older eyes and thumbs.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

With the C1 modem and in-house wifi/bluetooth, here's hoping that Apple is ready to revisit the mini-sized phone!

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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I have a (regular) Pixel 8 and given that this is smaller and finally has USB-C I'm very tempted to try to jump to Apple again but I'm curious about the following: 1. Is there a terminal equivalent like termux? 2. Is there an open source wireguard client like the official wireguard client for Android? 3. Is it possible to upload mp4 videos to it to watch offline? 4. Is it possible to upload some of my mp3 collection…

1. I mean, there's iSH to emulate an x86 linux environment, but it's not like you can get access to the iOS system through a terminal. Since I mainly use the terminal on my phone for SSH, I use Termius.

2. There's the official wireguard client

3. iOS has native mp4 support. You can play mp4s from files stored on the phone, or from gdrive or dropbox, etc. or just import to your photos/videos library.

4. Yes.

5. yes, the Möbius Sync app

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

Sounds reasonable, but why can't we just compare it, the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something?

Apple generally doesn't publish their battery specs so we'll have to wait for it to get into reviewers hands

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery" According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

Though, the youtube commercial states new internal design “optimized for new battery”.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery" According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

IMO somebody just made that up based on it sharing the outer dimensions of the iPhone 14 which also happens to have exactly 3279 mAh. I can't really figure out what "larger battery" could mean in their release video if it isn't larger than at least the 14 if not the 16.
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