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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#642I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.
Could not agree more. The All In guys stopped engaging in thought provoking and critical conversations a long time ago. And holy hell, Jason Calacanis is the biggest weasel on the podcast. At least the other turds own who they are, while Jason will be whatever gets him access to the “in crowd”.
Jason Calacanis has been a first rate loser from the start.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#643Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm thinking 2/3, but the part you're missing is that the process will destroy US influence around the world. Which may be the real point of all this. It's hard to know where Musk's allegiances really lie. With that said, the US has been in the dominant world position for so long, it's like they forget what it takes to be there. Soft power, by giving people food and support - like USAID does, is part of what helps ke…
I hear this argument a lot and I have two thoughts about it: 1. USA is a rich country, and that's why it can afford helping other countries. But what if you overspend? Now your economy is weak, you lag behind, and sooner or later competitors help more than you (if it's really the best thing to do to rule the world). So maybe optimizing spending is in order? And I think one strategy to optimize an overgrown system is…
Watch what happens with countries new alliegances to China over the next few years.
Hell even in Canada were now exploring direct trade deals with China to avoid the US.
That is a very big deal for an economy like the US that is so global.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#644I used to hang around with the late 90s's versions of these guys. I grew up, had a family, have had a successful career. They went to prison. I expect the same will happen to this lot.
Not all of them did. Beto O'Rourke is doing okay for himself.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#645I am wondering what will happen at the end of all of this? I see a few possibilities here: 1. Either this project will be a tremendous success for the American people, saving millions and uncovering massive fraud and waste in the government thanks to the audits 2. It will ab a complete failure, nothing of value will get discovered, published and time and money will be wasted for everyone involved (giving the DNC a hu…
>saving millions If you mean that literally they might have success with that but overall American government spending is a pretty boring affair[1], with about 9 out of 10 dollars going to defense, healthcare, interest, social security and the likes. Trying to chase down "woke" fifth columns in the department of education (2% of the budget) is not going to save you a lot of dough. I'd be willing to make a bet they're…
It's troubling to see people from assumably technical backgrounds on HN seem to struggle with the very basic math you put forward.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#646I know it's like screaming into the void when there's a 1000+ comments but...
You remember the end of Gatsby where Nick turns up at the mansion and some sinister characters have the run of the place and you-know-who is floating in the pool out back...
This is what the US looks like right now. Party's over, no guests ever again. Crims have moved in instead.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#647Earlier quoted context omitted.
People mentioned Elon's DOGE team is about 200 people including lawyers and accountants. I am guessing the focus on the 6 youngsters is mainly because here's a bunch of former Deloitte lawyers/accountants is not a newsworthy thing to focus on especially if your angle is to discredit the effort.
You're telling me 200 ALLEGED adult professionals are involved in a scheme where some 19 year old cybercriminal has access to classified nuclear weapons systems as if that's any indication of a better situation than critics allege and you think you've got sober and thoughtful take to offer on this situation, do you?
From CNN[0]:
> Farritor was granted access to basic IT including email and Microsoft 365, one of the people said. The chief information office only does a small amount of IT and cybersecurity work for the National Nuclear Security Administration, they said, including providing connectivity and running basic internet services for NNSA’s headquarters. It does not run IT systems for the nuclear agency’s labs controlling the nation’s nuclear stockpile.
As to this part of your comment:
> and you think you've got sober and thoughtful take to offer on this situation, do you?
Please take note of Dang's comment at the top of the page, hyperbole and hysteria are not interesting.
[0] https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/06/climate/doge-energy-depar...
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#648Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or, even more horrible, they might have family that adversaries can lean on. Isn't that the case for any government employee?
Security clearance will include family members, and it's entirely possible someone will be denied clearance because of something they've done that makes them susceptible to coercion. The candidate would need to disclose things like this. Reddit is full of examples where someone's family impacted their clearance (either denying it or requiring disclosure): https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineers/comments/4d4xd8/possib..…
> It's entirely possible someone will be denied clearance because of something they've done that makes them susceptible to coercion.
And that doesn't have to be something incriminating, either, just something that means they could be used as a lever against the individual seeking clearance. An example might be something like having a family member who lives in Russia - this would make the subject susceptible to coercion by the Russian government threatening to harm their family.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#649I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.
One of the most frustrating parts of that podcast is that they often just read the headlines of news events and react, making it clear that they haven't bothered to read any level of detail about the event. I'll also give honorable mentions to some of their most outrageous takes: 1. Friedberg predicting that NYT and CNN would be replaced by blockchain based news reporting. 2. Chamath predicting the Ukraine/Russia ten…
Even more worrying is the fact that some people think they have credibility.
Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'
#650All: if you're going to comment here, please make sure you're up on the guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html , and don't post low-information / high-indignation comments that could just as easily appear in any related thread. Such generic comments make discussion less interesting and more activating. That's not what we're trying for here. Rather, we want curious conversation. I know that's n…
I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…
Hey Dang!
First I want to thank you for the tireless job of moderating this form, it is really the thing that keeps it as a special place on the internet.
I genuinely wanted to ask if you feel out of depth on moderating the current and upcoming news on both the US and AI.
Both feel like we are heading towards things many of us have not experienced in our lives.
How do you find your previous moderation experience is leading you in the current environment?