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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Remember, if you can vote, vote the next time you can. Convince your friends and neighbors to vote, too. Apathy has real consequences.

Would it matter much? It seems like the election is fueled on false narratives and outright lies amplified by social media and technology that many of us here helped to build. Apathy is a real thing but at least close to half the population fully intended to and did vote for their choice of leadership. What can we (generalized we in the tech community) now combat this?

We need to use our skills to build platforms that have both high retention and diffuse ownership that uplifts its users. We need to build a media ecosystem that isn't just a toy. My generation treated social media like it was just an amusement, and didn't notice it slowly turn the flow of information back into AM talk radio until it was too late. There have to be genuine alternatives to Tiktok and X and Instagram that are just as obsessive about UX as the proprietary apps are, but can't be owned.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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If DOGE wants to be effective it really should be going after the big ticket items like medicare or defense, some estimates have medicare at 40% fraud and waste and the DoD can't even pass an audit so no one really knows what %. And that is just getting what we've paid for, not even evaluating if what we've paid for is effective. Of course to do that would require actual coalition building, hard choices that upset vo…

Medicare fraud perpetuated by individuals is u likely to be that high. Overbilling by hospital corporations and medical device companies could be possible. But corporations aren’t the target of DOGE.

The 40% estimate is for fraud and waste combined. "Waste" being things like unnecessary MRIs.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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> Congress has no ability to really intervene and monitor what's happening because these aren't really accountable public officials. Congress gets to make laws. They can intervene by making a law that allows them to intervene, which is the job we elected them to do. Apparently they prefer getting bossed around instead.

The majority of the currently elected Congress supports this – it is part of the mandate for which they were elected.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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There are people in this thread claiming that Wired "doxxed" these engineers working for Musk dismantling things they don't understand; however didn't Musk publicly mock individual federal employees on his twitter account, drawing the eyes of millions onto random government functionaries for no other reason than to capriciously taunt them about being fired? I hope people condemning the former also condemn the latter.

Two wrongs make a right. OK

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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This seems broadly good. If you told me a democratic admin had recruited these people, I would think "wow! what a positive signal for the current admin!"

How could you not trust a 19 year old who goes by bigballs? I for one trust Mr.BigBalls to make smart and effective cuts to get our government back on track!

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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how is someone’s age relevant? Is a 55 y.o. Software engineer who spent 20 years in a bureaucratic wheel any better than a bright 20yo mind? They both suck in a different way! Writing an entire article with ageism as a center piece is truly pinnacle of American journalism

19 year olds are much more malleable. They can be fanatic, and follow orders easily. They aren't educated. They have a limited grasp of morality, and can't oversee the consequences of their actions. They have no other obligation in life than to this holy task. That's why it's relevant.

Somewhat ironic to claim a "limited grasp of morality" and a lack of education when the instutions doing said education have been preaching moral relativism for a while now.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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I found Bukele's comments to be eye opening, https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850 > Most governments don’t want USAID funds flowing into their countries because they understand where much of that money actually ends up. > While marketed as support for development, democracy, and human rights, the majority of these funds are funneled into opposition groups, NGOs with political agendas, and destabilizin…

This is just blatantly false. The 10% number is ridiculous which anyone involved with foreign aid knows. But you can easily tell that the countries want the money from the cases where the US threatens to take away aid over some disagreement and then the foreign countries capitulates. You know these are sovereign nations that can say no to the aid if they don't want it right? You don't just show up without a visa and…

This is a very simplistic take.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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There are people in this thread claiming that Wired "doxxed" these engineers working for Musk dismantling things they don't understand; however didn't Musk publicly mock individual federal employees on his twitter account, drawing the eyes of millions onto random government functionaries for no other reason than to capriciously taunt them about being fired? I hope people condemning the former also condemn the latter.

There’s a difference between mocking the general function of government employees and specifically calling for violence against individual engineers.
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