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Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Reader made tons of people use RSS who otherwise wouldn’t, and who now don’t. It did not live long enough to become a villain (though it certainly would have — there is no reason why G wouldn’t have added recommendations, an algo feed, and all it brings). Therefore it’s remembered well.

Reader died because people were switching to social media. Reader also had no vendor lock in at all. There’s no network effect like Facebook. There’s no massive infrastructure demands like Google. No corporate sales process like Oracle, Microsoft, etc. You could very easily create a competitor and after it died, few even tried to replace it. I miss it but not enough to find another RSS reader. You’re never really the…

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Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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The primary use for a smartwatch for myself (and many of my family, friends) is fitness and health tracking. Card payments, notifications, WatchFaces etc. are all secondary. Basically what Whoop is doing with their strap - but minus the subscription model. I know a ton of people who tried the whoop but felt it was extremely pricey and didn't have the accuracy of an apple watch. I would be happy to pay ~$400-500 up fr…

I agree.

And for those who recommend a Garmin, an Oura ring or similar:

I have a Garmin and it's great but I cannot wear it during martial arts (grappling).

I also can't wear a ring doing weight lifting or when I'm grappling.

I had a Whoop and it was really good for tracking martial arts (the boxers with the holder was super comfortable) but alas it was expensive and the sleep tracking with it in the boxers was really poor.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Which Garmin to you have? This isn't my experience. And you have option to buy Garmin watches with actual buttons, I agree the touch-screen only are useless.

Im not OP, but this sounds like the garmin instinct.

I own both the original Insticnt and the Instinct 2. OP is not talking about the Instinct.

The Instinct does not have touchscreen, instead it has a monocolor LCD that's always on. It also has an intuitive UI with just 5 buttons on the side.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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The primary use for a smartwatch for myself (and many of my family, friends) is fitness and health tracking. Card payments, notifications, WatchFaces etc. are all secondary. Basically what Whoop is doing with their strap - but minus the subscription model. I know a ton of people who tried the whoop but felt it was extremely pricey and didn't have the accuracy of an apple watch. I would be happy to pay ~$400-500 up fr…

I sort-of feel like maybe Pebble isn't for you, it had always been the smartwatch in a world of fitness trackers.

I'm almost the opposite for your, Notifications, then watch functionality, and card payments are primary for me. For me, fitness, and health tracking are barely secondary.

Which, IMO, is what I've always loved about Pebble, it was a smartwatch first.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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I would love to help with making the robots to test this stuff. I often joke that one would think that testing buttons would be a solved problem by now, but then we keep inventing new buttons. I'm looking forward to seeing all the new buttons the Pebble team are working on!

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Gotta be honest I feel like Garmin is the perfect balance of pebble vs apple watch

Garmin is the perfect solution if you want a smart watch with a gps that takes 5mins to possibly sync 50% of the time and a touchscreen-only interface that doesn’t work if it gets wet or say sweaty. Ie during most of the activities it’s supposedly designed for. When I got a garmin smartwatch I was astounded by how poor the basic ux is in almost every single way. If I’m swimming, how do I stop my work out? The touchsc…

I don't know what model you have, but this isn't my experience at all.

I own both the Instinct and Instinct 2, which have no touchscreen but an always-on monocolor LCD. I also have absolutely none of your GPS issues.

My dad was so impressed with my Instinct he bought a second-hand Fenix which also has none of your issues.

And all the Garmins I know have a charging port which is flush with the back of the watch.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Garmin is the perfect solution if you want a smart watch with a gps that takes 5mins to possibly sync 50% of the time and a touchscreen-only interface that doesn’t work if it gets wet or say sweaty. Ie during most of the activities it’s supposedly designed for. When I got a garmin smartwatch I was astounded by how poor the basic ux is in almost every single way. If I’m swimming, how do I stop my work out? The touchsc…

I've received a basic Garmin watch for my 5 years anniversary with the company I work for and I don't use as: -The app has dark patterns like: you need to put a weight and height before you proceed with the setup, even though you can remove those later. -Step counter quite simply doesn't work, as it grossly overestimates the count. -5 day battery life. Not terrible, but also not practical. -Notifications. All. The. T…

> The app has dark patterns like: you need to put a weight and height before you proceed with the setup, even though you can remove those later.

That's not a dark pattern. A fitness watch has to know your weight and height for basically all of its fitness related functions...

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Gotta be honest I feel like Garmin is the perfect balance of pebble vs apple watch

I like my instinct, but Garmin is so locked down, less hackable than even an Apple Watch.

The Instinct 2 has an SDK and a sort of app store. I must admit that adding real new functionality is hard, but it's something at least.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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The primary use for a smartwatch for myself (and many of my family, friends) is fitness and health tracking. Card payments, notifications, WatchFaces etc. are all secondary. Basically what Whoop is doing with their strap - but minus the subscription model. I know a ton of people who tried the whoop but felt it was extremely pricey and didn't have the accuracy of an apple watch. I would be happy to pay ~$400-500 up fr…

Surely a Garmin is what you want? No subscription, 7 day+ battery life, smart watch features are there but largely secondary.

I wear a Garmin watch every day. It's great. But... I don't love the high price and the fact that the battery isn't easily replaceable. (Feels like Garmin would rather you buy a new watch instead.) There's a huge lane for Pebble to be the torch bearer for the Right-to-Repair movement (especially given it's whole story arc so far.)

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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I love the animation when you click "No" on "Do you want a new Pebble?". So extra.

Gotta be honest I feel like Garmin is the perfect balance of pebble vs apple watch

I absolutely love my Garmin instict. It has an always-on display and a battery that lasts for nearly a month.

I mostly use it for reading my calendar, weather, notifications and time. Occasionally I use it for exercise.

But what it also excels at is GPS. I use it as a backup navigational tool when sailing. It has also prevented me from getting lost when running in the woods a number of times.

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