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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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What? Wikileaks had a huge drop of shit about Russia they were going to publish. Assange was told he would be falling out a window if he published it. Then he buried it. He is only about publishing leaks about western countries that don’t directly tell him they will murder him. That isn’t a free society.

Source?

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My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

I really don't want my government acting like my ex-girlfriend.

When presented with evidence of her infidelity, her first and only reaction, "Who sent you those screenshots?! It was Sarah, wasn't it? You know she hates me. Why are you talking to her?!"

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Well, I hope we all learned a lesson about whistle blowing.

Keep your name and any trace back to you out of it.

No idea how but I have yet to see a story of a whistleblower not getting fucked over.

Probably the answer is to not bother and try and destroy the system from within.

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If you care about this news and you are able to do this financially, consider supporting Julian's fee for having have had to take a private plane for this entire process: > Julian Assange has embarked on flight VJ199 to Saipan. If all goes well it will bring him to freedom in Australia. But his travel to freedom comes at a massive cost: he will owe USD 520,000 which he is obligated to pay back to the Australian gover…

>He was not permitted to fly commercial airlines or routes to Saipan and onward to Australia.

Not permitted by who, and on what basis?

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> and their children, who have only known their father from behind bars. Well thats fascinating. Were his kids somehow all born after he was imprisoned?

I was somewhat surprised as well at the phrasing here, and had to look it up. During Assange's time in the Ecuadorian embassy, he fathered two children by a female lawyer hired to be on his defense team. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Assange#Personal_life_a...

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All around my neighborhood is the graffiti of "Free Assange, Oz hero". Just this morning I saw a large amount of it in a new place. Was thinking "I really hope one day it happens but I am doubtful". And then I just saw this... wow! I am so glad to be wrong, to see my pessimistic side be completely wrong. Julian is free!

What’s the actual view on him in oz? We’ve got exiled Aussie politicians here in the U.K. saying that he’s universally reviled, and that nobody even sees him as a “real” Australian, and that Australians will never forgive him for violating their privacy (oh, the bleeding irony). No alternate viewpoints, looks like 100% of sampled Australians hate him?

Politicians and corporate journalists lie to you, and they hate Assange because he exposes their lies. That pretty much gives you your answer -- he is not universally hated by normal people at all.

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JULIAN ASSANGE IS FREE Julian Assange is free. He left Belmarsh maximum security prison on the morning of 24 June, after having spent 1901 days there. He was granted bail by the High Court in London and was released at Stanstead airport during the afternoon, where he boarded a plane and departed the UK. This is the result of a global campaign that spanned grass-roots organisers, press freedom campaigners, legislators…

1901 days in prison, after all that time since 2012 holed up in a room in the Ecuadorian embassy first.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I was once harassed by cops for five minutes and I still think about it sometimes. I can't imagine what Assange has been through.

I had an appiffanny recently and it goes like this; Everything that happens is an aggregate of what happened before it, it was unavoidable, however that doesn't stop one from trying to change the composition and try to alter the next aggregates

> I had an appiffanny recently

You might want to trademark it.

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My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

> he was influenced by Russia This argument is completely nonsensical, this idea that who revealed the crime matters more than the actual crime . What does it matter who "influenced" him, if the information was legit? And is it your opinion that none of this information should be released unless it covers all countries equally? Do you honestly think he should have thought, I can't reveal this crime until I find an eq…

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I think Snowden is a hero who deserves a medal from the president.

I think Assange deserves what he got.

The differences in what they did and how make the distinction.

Snowden saw something the public needed to know and filtered it through a journalist who did everything reasonable to filter and publish what the public needed to know. And the public really did need to know it.

Assange tried to find anything and everything to publish in bulk and did so with no regards to the content or the need for anybody to know. He actually put things in danger and the things he leaked were of limited value and often hyped up to be much more than they were.

If you're an edgy teenager with a "fuck the system" mentality sure you'll appreciate Assange, but I'm not. That's not dystopia.

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