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Ok so now a criminal just needs to avoid being detected for an hour and the logs are self wiping. Sounds like a feature they’ll love!
I thought this was about DDOS and spam protection. If you want to move the goalposts, state that explicitly.
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Ok so now a criminal just needs to avoid being detected for an hour and the logs are self wiping. Sounds like a feature they’ll love!
Keep them as long as is reasonable, then delete them.
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What if I want to optimize my site for certain classes of users? Say a less than abled person. What if I want to make my product easier to use with various control schemes used by a handicapped person and my product is so complex that tracking this demographic’s usage of my product is the easiest or only way? and what if there is no intent to sell your data? I could ask permission and delay, or I could just capture t…
> What if I want to optimize my site for certain classes of users? Say a less than abled person. What are you learning from users' personal data that changes how you do this? Shouldn't your site be accessible, regardless of usage?
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not the same, you’re paying for car insurance and they offer you a discount if you allow tracking. most sites using tracking are providing you something for no monetary cost to you, instead by showing you targeted ads
It's not that different, let's make it the same. Welcome to my new insurance company! Thanks for requesting a quote (it's free! the quote, not the insurance), my agent will swing by to install a GPS chip while you sleep. We're not doing anything malicious with it, we just give you call whenever you're within 5 miles of one of our locations. We'll put it in the bin the vehicle manufacturer conveniently installed for u…
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Hmm, what if people outside of yoga like health food? Or what if some people at the yoga site instead eat fried food but just have a good exercise routine? your solution here just makes ads less valuable, which isn’t a win for advertisers or sites. if you can remove tracking, and still allow targeting, then you’ve hit gold. short of that you won’t find meaningful buy-in.
Ad networks can offer to optimize the impressions, help to with targeting. After all the current implicit user profiling and targeting is already not a 100%. Many people use adblockers, many devices are used by more than one user, etc. (In this day and age we are still baffled how Amazon/Google/whatever advertises us - for days - the same fucking thing we just purchased yesterday. Of course, because based on their mo…
Many of us are old enough to remember untargeted ads, and pretty much all anybody saw at the time as an ad for cialis/viagra. 14 year old girls, 25 year old men, it didn’t matter, clearly you’re in the market for ED meds. this is a regression and i’ll take anonymized profile data over seeing completely irrelevant ads.
One thing that stood out to me from your post is this
> Many people use adblockers, many devices are used by more than one user, etc.
adblockers see no where near the adoption you seem to think, as it’s not many users, it’s a very small minority. and most users in fact have their own device and have for some years now. you seem to be detached from reality.
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Of course not. Only titans of industry and the landed gentry of the executive class are allowed to "move fast and break things", "ask for forgiveness rather than permission" and take "imperfect action rather than perfect action." It's more morally permissible for corporate decision makers to install a global surveillance complex than for civil servants to attempt to regulate it.
> It's more morally permissible for corporate decision makers to install a global surveillance complex No, it's more transparent. Unlike cookie banners. If only cookie banners protected the consumer, but shadow cookies work fine.
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Doesn't that argument work both ways? If you interpret the EU's regulation with the "lens of game theory", it is an unintended consequence of aggressive corporate data collection. Not sure why it makes sense to complain about the EU and not the companies.
No, it does not work both ways. The roles of governments and corporations are not symmetric. Good regulation is regulation that has good outcomes. If a law has bad outcomes it is a bad law. You can separately complain about what companies are doing but that doesn't change the fact that it's a bad law. It is of course debatable whether GDPR as a whole has bad outcomes, but if we're talking about cookie banners in isol…
The main problem with GDPR is the scale of non-compliance greatly exceeds the size of any reasonable enforcement capacity, at least until enforcement catches up.
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Note that putting a “we use cookies” banner on your website will not absolve you from GDPR fines anyway. You still need to adher to the law about informend consent, storing safely etc. If you are worried about GDPR, by far the safest is to just not collect personal information.
You are correct: implementing GDPR correctly is much, much harder and more expensive than people realise. Cookie banners are just the tip of the iceberg. A few things not allowed under GDPR: 1. Analytics 2. Third-party resources like fonts or JS libraries 3. CDNs 4. DDOS protection services And I am sure I am missing many more. I am not a lawyer, but I worked with a few.
What you can’t do is trick the client to download something from a third-party source which then spy on the customer.
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I thought this was about DDOS and spam protection. If you want to move the goalposts, state that explicitly.
How is that misaligned with your DDOS? It’s not moving the goal posts at all you just didnt think of that possibility and now are upset.
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Again, this should have been a >browser feature The proper way to have done this would have been to go to the W3C or WHATWG and proposed an extension to HTML for sites to define an opt-in manifest or something similar.
A feature that lets the browser tell websites "do-not-track the user"? From my knowledge of history, I'm afraid that would not work at all!