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The way I see it is that you're supposed to own the car and every feature you paid for it.
big tech is trying to erase this concept from the consumer mind. Assuming someone tried to do everything legally (not pirating) when was the last time anyone "owned" anything. Music, Movies, TV shows, Software, you don't own any of it you are simply paying for server space.
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Here's a question for the lawyers out there: if you notify Tesla that they're no longer authorized to access YOUR car, and they remote into it anyways, would that come under Computer Fraud and Abuse?
You agreed to EULA.
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People are pushing back against the idea that you can't do whatever you want with a physical thing that you own. You own the heating mechanism in the seats, you own the hardware needed to turn them on, and you own the computer which activates it. If Toyota sold me a car with heated seat mechanisms installed and no switch, they couldn't stop me from installing my own switch. That you might not be able to do what you w…
The thing is, in the long run it doesn't matter whether you are legally allowed to install your own switch. The price manufacturers charge for a car will adjust based on whether they can get revenue from subscriptions or not. If they can't successfully charge subscriptions, base car prices will go up.
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I remember being out for a beer run with a friend during these days. On the way there he pulls into a parking lot and stops in front of a nail salon. He said, "Come on" and I followed him into the nail salon. There were about 10 women in there, not a guy in sight... he goes up to the desk and pushes a button that looks like a doorbell. One of the ladies doing the nails says, "He no work here no more, check dry cleane…
Why did you take the car to cross the road?
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I worked for a cable company in the mid-90s. The amount of boxes that disappeared (and couldn't be located) was insane. The folks that procured them also used a "bullet blocker" (basically a resistor) to avoid the box being disabled. In the satellite realm, DishNetwork was always the easier service to hack. The FTA scene was completely overrun with folks buying 3rd party tuners. Once Dish switched to an encrypted sig…
I read an article about the early DirecTV hacking days and the cat and mouse game the hackers played with the company. DirecT cards were smart cards that ran programs for the decryption path. The hackers kept just duplicating whatever DirecTV sent down to keep them workign, mystery bits and all. Then one day a final update came out and those weird bits turned out to be a specially designed program that bricked all of…
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>that's got to be really bad news for someone in vehicle security at Tesla. It says in the article: " Generally, these exploits are shared with Tesla, and it helps the automaker secure its systems." So it's only a matter of time till Tesla patches it.
More relevant quotes from the article: > The group of hackers claims that their “Tesla Jailbreak” is “unpatchable” and allows to run “arbitrary software on the infotainment.” And the full quote of what you put: > Electrek’s Take > Generally, these exploits are shared with Tesla, and it helps the automaker secure its systems. > In this case, the hackers said that despite the exploit, they believe Tesla’s security is b…
> Generally, these exploits are shared with Tesla, and it helps the automaker secure its systems. We need to bring back hackers/crackers of the old and NOT share exploits with these companies.
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The European perspective is broadly to have the "freedom from ", whereas the American one is the "freedom to ". You've got the freedom to aquire an arsenal, I don't, but I prefer the freedom from other people gunning down my kids, which by extension limits the narrow personal freedoms of myself and others. Likewise, the American perspective is to draw a hard line on "in public", the European one is more nuanced. Yes,…
A useful way to think about it is to shift your view from "can I do X?" to "will I bother anyone else by doing X?". I don't think that's particularly useful, because the answer to the second is trivially Yes, regardless of the value of X.
then don't do it?
> Software-locked features that need to be activated by the owner paying or subscribing to a service are becoming increasingly popular in the auto industry. Sorry, WHAT? People should absolutely boycott companies that try to squeeze bucks in this miserable way.
You better be ok with building your own car then, because every major player is adding subscriptions for various features. Remote start and remote lock/unlock are the most common, along with satellite radio.