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Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by astrange »

brigandish wrote: post #632
astrange wrote: post #627

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It had a lot of performance and loading bugs, but it never showed me private tweets.

Is your contention that now you've been shown a more serious bug than you'd experienced previously that it's an indication that there were not similar or worse bugs in existence before the takeover? Even if I myself hadn't experienced more serious bugs than those prior to the takeover, it'd still seem a stretch.

I mean, yeah, bugs that get you in legal trouble are the worst kind.

Their traditional largest issue is their terrible ad targeting but that's not gotten better.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by akira2501 »

nkjnlknlk wrote: post #374
akira2501 wrote: post #323

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> because it's not a social platform. Is that what people actually want? To be algorithmiclly fed content from strangers? Why is this the imputed ideal? > but ideally an algorithm based feed will promote discourse and dialogue about ideas. Is there any evidence that this is true or should be an expectation? Is that really why billions of dollars are spent on this space?

> Is there any evidence that this is true or should be an expectation? Is that really why billions of dollars are spent on this space? Yes. If people only used social media to connect/follow people they know the industry would be making nothing.

This only makes sense if you assume large national conglomerates are the norm. If they weren't, then the industry could make _plenty_ of money off a much larger base of small to medium businesses advertising to local citizens.

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Post by Zetice »

hackernewds wrote: post #603
Zetice wrote: post #518

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Bluesky is building AT, what mastodon should have been. That will kill Twitter in a way that’s at least new. Not sure how to solve the HOA problem though…

Do not trust any Jack Dorsey product anymore as the next alternative again

It’s a protocol, not a product.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by raverbashing »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #568
greyman wrote: post #397

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But is twitter really dying? The fields I watch (AI, software engineering, writers), all thought leaders are still there, still posting regularly.

Twitter now has daily outages where parts of it just don’t function and no one knows when we’ll experience a more serious one. It serves the daily/hourly whims and mood swings of a single person who has proven to be petty, vindictive (to his employees), and devoid of integrity. That lack of stability in my opinion accumulates. Sooner or later it will balance out the momentum.

I'm surprised to see people that can't see this (or are just Musk apologists)

The "Following" tab is showing only a fraction of your timeline tweets. Go to the "For You" tab and see an endless firehose of unrelated stuff together with some of the tweets of people you were following and were supposed to show up on the "For You" tab but didn't.

Not to mention tweets in private circles being shown in the "For you" tab

"twitter is working fine" is a bad take. It looks like it is working fine if you look at it for 30s, that's it.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by [deleted] »

neural_thing wrote: post #630
m_ke wrote: post #58

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They raised a ton of money on a high valuation, spent 25mil to make 1 mil last year and are now scrambling to raise a new crowd sourced round because they don't want to get wiped out in a down round. This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model and I'm guessing they think they have "influencers" on their platform to bring in a decent audience.

Their 2021 revenue is $12M. We don't know their 2022 revenue. Your numbers are just wrong. Source: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1783191/000167025423...

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Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by Retr0id »

AlbertCory wrote: post #75
ghiculescu wrote: post #48

I love Substack. But apart from to mess with Twitter I really don’t understand the point of this. https://substack.com/profile/241262-casey-newton/note/c-1446... I’d a good summary. I don’t want to subscribe to hundreds of newsletters to see tweet (sorry, notes). But if you change that setup, it really is a Twitter clone with no upside to writers.

Elon showing the number of impressions a tweet or reply actually got was an eye-opener for me. Probably about 1-2% of "Followers" -- not just mine but most people's. Twitter has been completely worthless anyway for promoting my Substack channel. In their Dashboard, it doesn't even show up in the top five referers.

Maybe I'm just "good at tweeting" but my average top-level tweets have at least as many views as I have followers. The "bad" ones are maybe around 15-25%.

However, if I link to an external article or something, the percentage of people who actually click on it is relatively tiny.

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Post by gordian-mind »

astrange wrote: post #620
propogandist wrote: post #595

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this was the same narrative pushed when most of the tweeps was axed, but the site has been running fine and has only grown in popularity.

All the Apple ecosystem developers left, all the neo-Nazis were unbanned to add subscriber numbers, I see 1-2 ads a day because all the respectable advertisers left due to the Nazis[0], and the For You page now regularly does things like show you tweets from locked accounts, circles you're not in, and people who've blocked you. Elon seems to have given up; he's just doing jokes now like changing his name to Harry Bal…

Wow, if the McDonald's marketing chief says Elon Musk is a nazi, it must be pretty serious...

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Post by chrisbolt »

neural_thing wrote: post #630
m_ke wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They raised a ton of money on a high valuation, spent 25mil to make 1 mil last year and are now scrambling to raise a new crowd sourced round because they don't want to get wiped out in a down round. This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model and I'm guessing they think they have "influencers" on their platform to bring in a decent audience.

Their 2021 revenue is $12M. We don't know their 2022 revenue. Your numbers are just wrong. Source: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1783191/000167025423...

From your source, their 2021 net profit was -$6.5M and their 2020 net profit was $1M. They seem to be mixing the $24.6M in negative cash flow for 2021 with the $1M in net profit in 2020? Doesn’t make any sense.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by aniforprez »

mlindner wrote: post #636
capital_guy wrote: post #47

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He keeps pushing the ‘for you’ page over the regular following tab that just shows tweets of people you follow The content moderation is basically nil now so tons of racist content is propagated throughout the network. Various technical bugs plaguing things - videos not playing, images not appearing, etc The verification system has been destroyed which has allowed fake accounts to run rampant The API has been wrecked…

All the data shows that racist content is down significantly following the purchase.

That's very much not the case https://www.euronews.com/2023/03/20/antisemitism-higher-than...

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by phtrivier »

Fauntleroy wrote: post #234
phtrivier wrote: post #169

You can now start a timer until they announce that they're going to algorithmically organize the feed of "Notes" because "chronological order is too hard to follow." Then, they will let an Algo organize the feed of articles. Then the ads - no, wait, the "sponsored post - will start popping in, etc, etc... Maybe they won't. I enjoy substack as it is today, and maybe they'll pull it off. But I can't help seing this as…

In that case, just continue using it until it sucks and move on.

This assumes there will be an alternative system to move on to.

I'm starting to wonder if there is a law of physics that inevitably turns any content publishing platform into youtwitokbook (tm).

Let's hope we keep a critical mass of "suckers" who still write good, long form content despite it being the least effective strategy.

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