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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by b4je7d7wb »

Areading314 wrote: post #545
segmondy wrote: post #529

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I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

Fixing bugs is part of the job. If you care about the product you work on, you have to fix the bugs and not whine about who originally wrote the code.

Sure. But also if all you do is fix bugs, unless they are really hard and complex ones in occasionally new domains it's probably not the best career path.

As an example fixing trivial styling, dead links, documentation, flaky tests. Work that is important and has to be done, but not something to drown yourself in. Sometimes it's also better to try to solve the root causes, like use css variables, introduce swagger or a more reliable test framework. You want the engineer who codes themselves out of the job of trivial tickets.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by Jotra7 »

dumpsterdiver wrote: post #618
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #75

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You'd arguably have a case that Musk is not acting in the interest of Tesla and is using his Tesla position to enrich himself rather than the Tesla company. Exactly what the "CEO is supposed to serve shareholders" is all about.

Curious, why would you think that a person who has trouble finding a group of banks (what is a group of banks called, a flight?) to produce the cash that he owns on paper, is solely interested in chasing more cash? Is it not more believable that he has a social agenda? At this very moment, I find it believable that Musk is drawing a line in the sand to be seen by folks who would have others irreparably silenced if th…

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8192kjshad09- wrote: post #287
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What’s more funny is how people commonly believe like this their code is so special or different than everyone else’s. Reverse engineering a large code base is not anywhere as hard as most software engineers somehow believe. I was tasked with analyzing a large code base from a company that my employer had been an investor in and as part of their investment had been given IP rights, the company employees were floored…

Really interesting story, approximately how many lines of code were in that codebase? It's hard for me to imagine someone grokking a 10M+ line codebase without external help, but I've never tried it. I do agree with the assertion that most codebases are not as _special_ as they like to think.

Why would anyone think Twitter has 10 million lines of code? Does it have some type of hidden features etc that I am not aware of?

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mikeryan wrote: post #282
Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

I've thought the same thing, while Twitter is hard to scale, it's pretty freaking simple product to build, if I had a bit of spare time, I'd be building a clone right now so as everyone leaves Musk's platform they have a place to go.

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xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #596

A great attempt to dodge vesting schedules and escape doling out severance. Even if they convince many engineers to quit willingly, one presumes that the next step is rounds of layoffs with cause . California is at-will, but notoriously anal regarding mass-layoffs. My serious question is, regardless of with or without cause, surely some employment attorneys are licking their lips at the stack of prospective cases the…

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nmfisher wrote: post #340
mikeryan wrote: post #282

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If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

The success of most* social media platforms was largely unconnected with the developers who built it or the underlying software. You can't just hire a few hundred retrenched developers and expect to come up with a successful social media platform after some number of months. Timing, marketing, and user psychology are much more important. * I'd say TikTok is the exception, because delivering (a) instantaneous video an…

Yes but this is good timing. A lot of people are pretty unsatisfied with Musk as a human lately and it seems like if there was an alternative available, people would go there quickly.

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Post by bamboozled »

yalogin wrote: post #614

What code is he reviewing? And why is he reviewing it? There must be millions of lines of code. Also, why bring in Tesla employees? Twitter employees are also his own, they could do they review for him. Just shows how musk feels about Twitter and the people there. Such disrespect.

Agreed, it feels like a severely degrading and unnecessarily hostile act.

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Post by sfmike »

ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

This is true, yet Musk has proven to be asynchronous. It could have second order consequences that actually benefit Tesla in the long term. Of course that's hypothetical but there could be some game theory here the truth is we don't know.
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