How do you define unacceptable? Please shown evidence or stats.
FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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Well in that case I hope you don't moan when the EU places heavy restrictions on the data harvesting that American companies do. I get the paranoia around China, I honestly do. I'm not at all unsupportive of the Chinese regime either. But this "one rule for us another for them" principle really needs to stop.
It's about maintaining geopolitical advantage, not playground fairness.
You say that but geopolitics rarely feels like it's ascended from playground maturity.
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There was a rule when foreign companies have to partner with a local one. This rule was recently relaxed; for example there was some Tesla factory a while ago that had 100% foreign ownership.
In the Tesla case the Chinese government astroturfed a scandal as soon as the cars were available for sale, and people who had bought Teslas were being singled out for harrassment by police. So it's a very interesting case of rules being relaxed...
Are you talking about banning Teslas for government use or on government ground? That's not a scandal at all, that's just taking security precautions. These precautions may or may not be right, but nothing about these precautions were about kicking Tesla out of the country, nor banning Tesla use under the general public. In complete contrast to how Huawei was handled in the west.
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I don't think it's against the rules at all; we had a thread a couple weeks ago which ended up being mostly in German. We native speakers enjoy the privilege of reading English nearly every where we go online, it should be no skin off our back to pop open Google Translate every once in a while.
Link? I want to test my rusty German comprehension
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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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How about these? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23480918 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23506580 .
And the FBI backdoored skype to silently shut off encryption, back when it was truly peer-to-peer. China never did that to me.
So you think fair elections are less important than your own security? You may have a problem after your country turns authoritarian, even if your computer is secure.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#646However putting this data in the hands of FAANG is no problem at all, and totally can't end up in any nefarious hands.
Help me understand your perspective: are you American or no? I have a hard time understanding why an American wouldn't see FAANG as the lesser of two evils here.
I am in fact American. Just being real-- everyone has our data already.
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The US Navy ensures that global shipping routes stay open and safe, the US economy provides the globe with advanced technological research and products, and the US's natural resources allow for it to export tons of commodities including food and energy. During pax americana, we've seen massive increases in quality of life around the world. Do you think the world is going to be more stable as the US retreats and other…
I think the world will be more stable when there are few major players around with not a single one having complete control / dominance. This will insure competition and cooperation between our "masters" and will keep them on their toes.
a multipolar world means more instability and wars, though. When you say it will "insure competition", that means conflict for sure.
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The British brought over, sold, and legalized slavery in the 13 colonies (and other North American locations), long before the USA was even a thing. The USA slave problem was started by Europeans.
> The USA slave problem was started by Europeans. You mean Dutch and British, right? Not all Europeans are equal - In 959, Doge Pietro Candiano IV emitted a decree stipulating that no Venetian citizen could lend money to a Greek slave trader, and no Venetian ship would be permitted to transport slaves in Greece. The ban on slave transport was later extended "Ultra Polam" or beyond the Venetian outpost of Pola - In 14…
And also the Spanish and French. When discussing 16th-18th century North America, encompassing the slave trade as being started by Europeans is not inaccurate.
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Life is largely zero-sum.
It's extremely not. Cooperation generally benefits everyone, and hostility can decrease value for everyone besides few criminals on top.
Benefiting from cooperation doesn’t mean something is or is not zero sum. Take war for example. I can team up with others to form an army and conqueror distant lands. By cooperating, everyone in the army benefits more than they could individually, but the source of those benefits comes from the zero-sum expense of others.
The only source (I can think of) of positive sum benefits is innovation. I can, for example, take iron ore, learn how to smelt steel, and use steel to get more iron ore. Smelting iron is still zero-sum, but learning how to smelt iron is what increases the size of the pie.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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Perhaps there is a reason why China’s government bans all the American Social Media companies. If they could undermine the country’s sovereignty then it would be a significant difference.
They ban them because the companies don't want to follow the same rules Chinese companies have to follow. It's exactly what I'm asking for. Have one set of rules and apply them to everyone. Ban data harvesting completely. Ban it for Facebook, Google and everyone else and then kick out TikTok because they don't follow the rules.
I'm really sick of this argument "companies don't want to follow the same rule in China". No they are not the same rules and it's not "don't want" but "can't". Take Yahoo for example, the formal CEO Jerry Yang lost his job as Yahoo China followed these "rules" back then to give email information of some dissent to Chinese government.
In China, when the government asks a company to do something, the company has no choice. When was the last time you heard US companies follow arbitrary ask of US government?