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In your original comment, you were "expressing skepticism that any medication will at all help with anything." This is an absolute statement that is directly contradicted by "Some [patients] can't function without [their medication]." Its ironic you criticize the reading skills of your interlocutor
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#642I'm not even a parent, but I've been incredibly distressed by this trend. Several of my good friends have had their daughters attempt suicide (luckily, none have succeeded, although 2 extremely close calls). It's been utterly gut-wrenching to watch these talented, kind, ambitious girls spiral into shells of their former selves. Luckily, all my friends are fellow techies who are upper-middle class, and can afford medi…
>daughters Was it only daughters that attempted suicide? What about sons? With this language, you are implying the life of a woman is worth more than a man's. Why?
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."
"Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead."
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines a ton lately. That's not cool, and will eventually get your account banned. If you'd please review the guidelines and stick to them when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
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The problem with framing this as a mental health crisis is that it implies the solution is in mental health services. Is there a mental health crisis in North Korea? No their lives are just terrible. Therapy isn’t going to help people in North Korea. Similarly the worse material conditions are in the West the more people are going to kill themselves. I think it’s about 200 a day in the US and it has been for many man…
Are you a mental health professional? Seems you're overconfident that therapy and drugs aren't the solution to mental health problems, given those are the two main treatments used by doctors who are actually experts on the matter.
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Please do not perpetuate flamewars on HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. You did a ton of that in this thread. That is seriously not cool. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've been having to ask you not to do this kind of thing for many years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29220499 (Nov 2021) https://news.…
I got under attack, my comments have been misrepresented, and I'm defending myself. Admittedly not in a timid manner. But that tends to happen when you put people on the defensive by constantly almost copy-pasting the same criticisms.
What would you do?
You linked 6 instances of fairly minor transgressions (at least in my mind; tons of people mention downvotes and are NEVER warned; a lot troll openly, get heavily flagged, and weeks later I still don't see them warned).
This thread here is the first and biggest example and it's the first (and last) where I'd agree with you that I crossed the line.
Your comment is fairly saddening to me and feels like targeting, and/or as an effort to enforce an echo chamber. I am very sure that is not your intention so I invite you to write to me on my email so we can settle this properly with more and better nuanced discussion.
I stand by my conviction that I got misrepresented and got attacked by a lot of people who freely interpreted a comment not made in bad faith, while clearly demonstrating lack of benefit of the doubt themselves. Have they been warned like I am here?
And I'm the bad guy for having none of their attacks?
Ouch. There's something not cool.
Again, feel free to email me and maybe you'll see I'm not some sort of a villain spreading hate on HN. Unpopular opinions shouldn't go under a relentless fire.
If not, keeping quiet on HN is the easiest thing for me to do. I'll prefer it because I don't want to lose my account. But, for the last time, you're making a mistake and are likely misunderstanding me due to cultural differences. Please, do consider that.
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> If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do. Hospitals were getting overwhelmed. So "taking care of it" for many was not as trivial as the usual flu. Consider that 40% of adults in the US are obese which is a complicating factor for unvaxed infection.
Lose weight. Eat healthy. Eat less. Exercise. Self control and discipline suck, but there's no easy button to life. People wanted the Vax to be an easy button.
It requires winning the genetic lottery or having a significant amount of self control to maintain a healthy weight as one ages. In some places healthier food is also more expensive, such as in major cities and food deserts.
Until the food industries are regulated more responsibility it's unrealistic and cruel for those of us born to be thinner to demand people 'just' exercise more and eat less.
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Lives have also been lost because of lockdowns, vaccination, masks, etc. Pretending that lockdowns have no collateral damage upon families, businesses, education, and so on is barbaric. And pretending that people aren't allowed to weigh the pros and cons of these actions without being called names is also not the hallmark of a civilized country.
What is your point? Would you have wanted EVEN MORE dead people? Nobody is pretending that lockdown hurt people. This is a strawman.
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Ha - I wish they were respectful. In my home state, the respect was very much lacking. Whatever they could get away with was the strategy. To say they were respectful - absolutely they were not. Edit: They were literally advising people to snitch on each other, even neighbor on neighbor, and make sure to keep that Christmas gathering at 10 people! Last I knew that was a communist tactic. Respected us? Edit 2: The abo…
I guarantee you regardless of which state of the 50 you're discussing, red/blue/whatever, that people still went to bars, to indoor dining, to parties. In New York the national guard was sent to SUNY Oneonta to forcibly quarantine the entire student body because the administration was unwilling to enforce lockdown. Also, "communist tactic"? The red scare is still with us but to see that shit on HN is always alarming.…
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The US doesn't have huge lockdowns.
Completely depends where you live. We absolutely did in New York for a very long time.
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Ha - I wish they were respectful. In my home state, the respect was very much lacking. Whatever they could get away with was the strategy. To say they were respectful - absolutely they were not. Edit: They were literally advising people to snitch on each other, even neighbor on neighbor, and make sure to keep that Christmas gathering at 10 people! Last I knew that was a communist tactic. Respected us? Edit 2: The abo…
I guarantee you regardless of which state of the 50 you're discussing, red/blue/whatever, that people still went to bars, to indoor dining, to parties. In New York the national guard was sent to SUNY Oneonta to forcibly quarantine the entire student body because the administration was unwilling to enforce lockdown. Also, "communist tactic"? The red scare is still with us but to see that shit on HN is always alarming.…