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Citation desperately needed.
In general, any time you save a photo on iOS, it goes into the camera roll, which is automatically backed up into iCloud.
If WhatsApp does this by default then, ho boy is that a terrible implementation.
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How do the slippery slope arguments not make sense? This is a capability that: 1. Did not exist prior (scanning stuff on the endpoint) 2. Has a plausible abuse case (the same system, applied to stuff that isn't CSAM) I find this very compelling, especially in the shittier regimes (China...) that Apple operates in.
Neither 1 nor 2 are in fact true. Spotlight indexes all kinds of metadata, as does photos search. Adding an agent to upload data from these is easier than extending the CSAM mechanism, and the CSAM mechanism as is is not all that plausible to abuse either technically or socially given how clear Apple’s promises are.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/05/apple-privacy-billboard-vegas...
Why on earth is Apple, a good tech company, with a culture of secrecy, using slack? Can it not build its own secure version of slack?
What else are they going to do with all that cash they're sitting on?
Also in this way they are being patriotic and supporting 'American innovation'; i.e. the American Intellectual Property regime [1].
You're not telling me they can access the clouds right? /s
In their attempt to make this extra private by scanning 'on device', I think they've managed to make it feel worse. If they scan my iCloud photos in iCloud, well lots of companies scan stuff when you upload it. It's on their servers, they're responsible for it. They don't want to be hosting CSAM. It feels much worse them turning your own, trusty iPhone against you. I know that isn't how you should look at it, but tha…
This CSAM Prevention initiative by Apple is a 180 degress change of their general message around privacy. Imagine investing hundreds of millions of dollars in pro-privacy programs, privacy features, privacy marketing, etc... just to pull this reverse card. Of course this is going to spark concern within their own ranks. It's like working for a food company that claims to use organic, non-processed, fair-trade ingredi…
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As someone who frequently has to help older family members recover from lost passwords and broken phones, I sincerely hope they leave strong encryption of backups to be "opt out". It's fine if you know you want to be the sole person in the world who can get to your data and have the discipline to store master passwords, and you accept Apple support cannot help you even if you have a purchase receipt for the device. B…
> help older family members recover from lost passwords and broken phones, Apple just needs to design good UX to help these people. Perhaps a large cardboard 'key' comes with every phone. When first setting up the phone, you scan a QR code on it to encrypt your data with the key, and then you tell the owner that of they ever lose the key to their phone, they won't be able to get in again. People understand that - it'…
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> Authoritarian countries are the least of the worries. That really depends. And is quite a strange, perhaps worrying, take. Because, for many people, copyright strikes are the least of their problems. Not that I disagree on it being an issue.
The only authoritarian country that holds any sway over Apple is China and China can easily just ban iPhones if they feel like it, especially with Xi Jinping in charge. Democratic countries are much more of a danger because Apple has offices in them and cannot easily pull out of the market if they feel the laws are unconscionable.
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Could they though? An authoritarian government could just as easily say "if you do not implement this feature, we will not allow you to operate in this country" and refuse to entertain legal challenges.
Apple is a fairly large company, that gives them some monetary leverage over governments. It's not as simple as you make it seem, I think.
I just do not want Apple scanning my phone for the purpose of finding something they can send to the police. I’m not even talking about any “slippery slope” scenarios and I’ll never have any of the material they are looking for. And right or wrong, I don’t really fear a false identification, so this isn’t about a worry that they will actually turn me in. I just don’t want them scanning my phone for the purpose of tur…
This is the most honest take on this that I’ve seen. The slippery slope arguments don’t make sense, nor does the risk of false positives. But the idea of being suspected even in this abstract way, because of something other people do , is at the very least distasteful, bordering on offensive.
Yeah no, there are about 1b iphones in use, even a ridiculous low amount of false positive would be a major pain in the ass for a lot of people regularly.
The slippery slope argument is totally valid, whatever legal safeguards you have today might not exist tomorrow, but the tech will stay here forever.
I actually fail to see how your second sentence support the first. Treating everyone as a potential suspect of a crime (which isn't even wide spread in the first place) is a major slippery slope. Today it's "for the children and only in the US" tomorrow it might be "find me pro Palestinians pictures of people living in Israel". Nobody can predict what apple stance will be in 25+ years