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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by tmaly »

cwkoss wrote: post #49
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

It would be really interesting if TikTok allowed users to make a sequential thread of videos, and added a scroll control to view "next video in sequence". Currently "part 2" videos are very tedious to find, if they could make a way to continue a sequence from the fyp with a simple gesture or button, I think they could seriously challenge longer form videos as well.

There is a way to group a set of your videos by topic, they call the feature “playlists” and it was introduced in March 2021.

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Post by blablabla123 »

cronix wrote: post #73
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

> Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment.

I cannot think of any better metaphor than a virtual American highschool with regard to Facebook or TikTok. The platforms have little to do with what they claim to deliver. That would be connecting with friends and more engaging YouTube. Instead most of the time a user just scrolls through an endless feed. Even worse there is even some kind of actual addicting factor since they are there to replace other actually better working platforms.

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Post by ffiirree »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #93
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

> Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing It's been interesting to watch the steady decline of Reddit and Twitter since they launched. They've always had a significant amount of doom-and-gloom clickbait headlines, but in the past it was far easier to filter out the bad and follow subreddits or Twitter people wit…

I'm still very much a fan of reddit. But then again I never ever ever go to r/all. I don't go to r/politics. So maybe it is a shitshow. But yeah the subreddits I like to visit are still high quality and give me good information.

I also feel like reddit has become legitimized as a source of new information. Especially ever since Obama did an AMA. I seem to find up to date information there that news outlets/journals haven't caught up with yet.

And it's been good that they've taken down some really messed up racism subreddits. It's bad that they for some reason let anti-white hate subreddits thrive and develop. Still not cool with that one. But all in all, I'll take it.

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Post by freedomben »

romwell wrote: post #589
freedomben wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in agreement with your perspective, but: > See, you just made a constructive comment! Came off as very patronizing, and even infantilizing. GP is not even part of the disagreement above. They just made a good comment. It seems like you are lumping them together with the others that you are bothered by. If you just removed the quoted section then you're reply is otherwise great.

Point taken, comment fixed, thanks for the feedback!

You're welcome! Thanks for sharing your perspective :-)

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Post by Cederfjard »

romwell wrote: post #634
dspillett wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> TikTok's algorithm has introduced me to my (now) favorite neurodivergent and LGBTQ+ content makers. But when did that start? Possibly earlier before the “people who attract trouble” filters were added in to the algorithms or tweaked. Now you've shown engagement with those families of content other parts of the recommendation system will be taking precedence over the negative filters. A newer user than yourself may…

A lot of your argument seems to be based on the assumption that I've been on the platform for a long time. I joined last month. Specifically, over a year after the article cited by the parent comment was written. That's my point here: I don't know if their algorithms were bad in the past, they are not bad now in the way the parent comment claimed then to be. As for the rest of your comment, you seem to miss that we'r…

Let’s say that this purported effect of hiding the ”divergent” to ostensibly avoid bullying does not exist at any substantial rate, at least not for you. I’m still curious what you think about the claims in the articles further up the thread, regarding steps they took to try to make that happen (even if maybe they were unsuccessful). Personally, it doesn’t leave me with a great taste in my mouth.

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Post by KineticLensman »

crvdgc wrote: post #435
panorama wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the temptation to write it off (I don't personally use TikTok daily), but to me this take feels similar to people who used to assume Twitter is just for people reporting what they ate for lunch. That might have been the case at the start but TikTok has _plenty_ of niche content, some vapid, some productive, which frankly depends on the media you engage with.

As a non-user, I am genuinely curious about what are some concrete examples of productive contents? From my understanding, the only format of communication on TikTok is videos with a short time limit. I'd imagine it is hard to convey much to be considered productive.

> I'd imagine it is hard to convey much to be considered productive.

I have found some great TikTok tutorials on iPhone photo techniques. For example, hold the phone upside down and on the ground, pour water in front of it, and you get an amazing PoV / reflection shot. The clips that demo'd this were all less than 30 seconds long. There are other tutorials on tool use and knots, by way of example, from which I have learned useful things.

These short-form tutorials are a breath of fresh air compared with bloated YouTube equivalents and their tedious intros. And you can save them to your camera roll.

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Post by imbnwa »

rc_mob wrote: post #617
mtc010170 wrote: post #149

I'm not a TikTok user.. or really a fan or user of any social media (and yes I realize I'm on HN).. but I find it silly that people are saying TikTok is somehow "better" for society or peoples' psyches than any of the alternatives. Do you remember when Facebook wasn't considered terrible? Twitter? Reddit? Instagram? Snapchat? This is just the latest one to rise to the top.. following very predictable patterns. It's g…

I've followed facebook from day one and I can assure you there never existed a day when it was not terrible. it started off as dudes creeping on girls

Gotta love that hacker problem solving spirit

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Post by n8cpdx »

ralusek wrote: post #640
n8cpdx wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) recognize: https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-transgenderism-not-sup... (one example of thousands, I’m sure) 1) legalize: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_Un... 2) I am specifically contesting that assertion. We appear to have a case of violent agreement here. One of the earlier posts suggested that lack of a trans person with 10+ million views is evidence that TT is suppressing content…

Okay well let's limit the conversation to #1, then. Let's start with legal, since it's easier. --- So, I don't understand what any of what you linked has to do with "legalizing the existence of trans people." Nothing referenced in the wikipedia article is remotely to do with making it illegal to be transgender, and I have never heard an argument advocating for that. So what is being debated is whether or not transgen…

I don’t know why you would limit the discussion to #1 when #2 is the only part that is really relevant to the topic at hand.

Assertion 1 is offered as evidence that TT wouldn’t need to actively suppress trans content for it to be unpopular. Perhaps that was unconvincing. I’d say you’re arguing a lot about specifics of terms to weasel out of accepting that some people don’t like trans people. The language argument is particularly weak in the way that arguments about word usage usually are. It is in fact quite common to use the language of “existence” when discussing gender/sex/orientation identity. Whether the physically don’t exist in a country, don’t exist as lgbt people, or don’t count as people at all: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/prominent-leader-chechnya-sa...

Stronger evidence for the claim that some people don’t like or want to accept trans people’s identity: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF

Some people would actually murder other people because they say they are trans: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra...

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by imbnwa »

EamonnMR wrote: post #10

The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

Thing is, most of American culture is only interested in literacy/literature as minimally as possible, and this has been the case since before social media came on the scene. As far as back as I remember, people get defensive/offended if you use too many "big words".

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Post by RGamma »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #7

TikTok is probably the best social media app, the only problem is the terrible search function. It doesn't have the sorting and filters that youtube does, fixing this one thing would make it so much more useful to me...

Modern social media is way beyond searching.

The urge to seek out doesn't originate in the user. Content is being fed.

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