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Guess what? It can happen to you, too, if you dare criticize a celebrity CEO. I got flagged & chastised for “breaking the guidelines” over a comment that stated facts about a certain CEO whose initials are TK. Remember when y’all kept saying there’s no free speech on Facebook or Twitter? Well, it’s worse here, because if you don’t toe that line and bend the knee, you might get your user privileges limited. Edit: here…

It wasn't what you said, but how you said it: > I would like you to email me your contact information so that I never end up working anywhere near you. My email is in my profile. I agreeing with the point you are making in that comment. However, I would happily flag any comment that makes disagreements unnecessarily personal in such a manner. It is the type of non-productive discourse that drags the whole conversatio…

Sorry, but that doesn't explain why admin specifically decided to call out the fact that I called out a "celebrity CEO." And, this disagreement is necessarily personal. Although I'm glad you agree with me, I'm not trying to convince anybody, nor do I care what amount of discussion my own, personal disagreement generates.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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You are making the accusations. In the court of law, it's up to you to prove it and you obviously can't. You're constantly making accusations without any proof.

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You can't dox other users, or attack other users, on HN. I've banned this account. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27430579.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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> Those are called examples. No. It's whataboutism.

No. Absolutely not. Those are examples. Go read it again. Or go learn english properly as it seems to not be your first language. Look nico, where do you live? [redacted]? I happen to live there to. Why don't we chat over the phone. Did I get your phone number right? [redacted]. Or how about we continue to chat where you live. I'll drop you a visit and we can hash out our arguments there. [redacted] is the city you l…

Wtf? You can't dox other users, or attack other users, on HN. I've banned this account. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27430579.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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You could have gone to a grocery store or a pharmacy for the vaccine. Every grocery store with an in house pharmacy and ever major chain of pharmacies offered it. You just didn't want to wait your turn. But, besides that, Mt. Zion was set aside for a high-risk community. You didn't have the same risk factors but helped yourself to one of their doses. I don't see how that's not applicable. I mean, the food was availab…

Mt. Zion wasn't "set aside for a high-risk community." It should have been, and indeed it was set aside earlier that week, but by Thursday morning they opened the gates and let everyone in. https://archive.is/Z55Oe As a result, it was my turn, after I waited in line for four hours at a "first come, first serve" vaccination site. Elsewhere you allege that @dasickis and I were "skirting eligibility rules." You know tha…

> Due to the lack of rules, I didn't have the option to give the vaccine I took to an underprivileged person of color in the West Oakland community.

Huh -- how was that option taken away from you? You could have just not queued up there, or left the queue. Or were you chained in line?

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They didn't set up a clinic and stick a "Colored folks only" sign out front. At the county or state level, they looked at the data and identified that Black and Latino populations were not being vaccinated at the same rate as white populations, and also recognized that the pandemic has disproportionately affected those same populations. So they committed resources to establish more clinics in areas with high concentr…

There is no reason whatsoever to even consider race. The justification is often that it’s a proxy for income, but that doesn’t make it any more logical. You can just evaluate it by income, profession, whatever, directly. By accusing white people of doing this, you’re still being completely racist. Say “wealthy people from other zip codes” if you want, but we got rid of segregation for a good reason.

You did?!? You still have poor neighbourhoods populated predominantly by black and latino people, and the “wealthy people from other zip codes” (there, satisfied?) who swoop in to take advantage of the vaccines intended for these neighbourhoods are still predominantly white... So how, exactly, can you claim to have “got rid of segregation”?

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

There are tens of millions of people in the US who were careless, got covid, and then spread it to others in the past year who have more blood on their hands than anyone who cut a vaccine line. Vaccine line cutting is just such a bizarre thing to take a hard moral stance on. And even now months later when the opposite problem of vaccine hesitancy is a much bigger concern, you’re still calling someone out for not even…

> Vaccine line cutting is just such a bizarre thing to take a hard moral stance on.

Even if we stipulate that a hard moral stance may be "bizarre", it's still at least rather dubious, isn't it?

So, it's certainly more bizarre to excommunicate someone for merely pointing it out.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

> to take advantage of a program that was not meant for them What’s wrong with this? Our whole society operates like this, but it’s suddenly wrong for some small fries to “take advantage of the law” ?” Write your laws correctly, and don’t blame people for looking out for themselves using completely legal means.

Attitudes like that is what's wrong with your society.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

So we getting offended at people getting vaccinated now? Smh

No, we're getting offended at well-heeled serial start-up founders getting vaccinated at the expense of others and then playing the victim card when it's pointed out that this isn't super nice.

Did you really not get that, or are you just pretending?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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From what other people who saw your original post have said, it sounds like you got significant pushback at the time, and that you knew that you were skirting the eligibility criteria as you understood it. As I’m sure you are aware, the brunt of COVID infections and deaths in the Bay Area were borne mostly by our Black and Latinx neighbors, especially those who continued to work during the pandemic, serving those of…

read the papers I linked and you'll realize that these sites have challenges with getting people vaccinated due to lack of trust in government and healthcare in general it's been 3 months since that clinic and many people here are still hesitant to get vaccinated these issues remain because few people understand how deep distrust runs especially in Oakland where people have seen the massive destruction caused by gove…

> read the papers I linked and you'll realize...

How about you read the tweet someone else linked?

https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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I agree with this comment and upvoted it for credible argument's sake

I read more about the location he got his shot from. He is most likely right that he did nothing wrong. Idk anything about the other person who supposedly bragged about skipping in line, but seeing as 1 of his 2 examples was incorrect, I'm going to assume the 2nd one is untrue too until I see something more than hearsay.

Judging from this poster, he is most likely not right: https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520
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