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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Not really. Good dedicated servers come with multiple TB free = 1000x 1 GB stream. And usually it's only pennies afterwards.

Where? Most place seem to get quite expensive once you add a Object Storage on top.

https://us.ovhcloud.com/

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I switched to Fastmail 2 months ago. It's been painless so far.

How does their search and spam filter compare to gmail?

Not GP but I've been using FM for about 3 years now. I can probably count the spam that has got through their filter in that time on one hand and the same for the inverse of legitimate mail getting caught in the filter (each time it was admittedly sites on the sketchier side of the net).

I can't speak for search as I've probably only searched a couple of times but I found what I was looking for so it's probably fine?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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How is it a "scam" to have other sources of income for a video?

The YT deal is that they take a cut of (ad) revenue to fund storage, cpu, bandwidth costs and profit in exchange for hosting the content. Many of these content providers disabled the feature effectively making YT operate at a loss to host their video while continuing to use the platform. I already have shown you other examples of these types of attempts which also didn't fly. You can't sell a TV in Walmart for 0.99$…

The problem being that "the YT deal" keeps being unilaterally changed by Google/YouTube.

First they adjusted the cut.

Then came the copyright strike system which stops the creator being paid and diverts all and revenue to the claimant automatically.

Followed by the adpocalypse whe your video will be demonitised for reasons only known to YT for being "advertiser unfriendly" with recourse taking so long you've missed the most profitable time for views (the first few days).

Then came the algorithm changes that decimated discovery which negates the huge benefit of publishing on YT (exposure).

Let's not forget just straight up not showing subscribers your channels videos (Remember to like and subscribe, and smash the notification bell!)

And each time YT reply with "I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it further"

I can't think why creators would look to monetize their content with external sources.

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But also if enough of them move to a new platform, this will hugely boost that platform. If they can coordinate their efforts of course. It is a big if.

Standard [0] tried that with mediocre results. Even some of the founders left. [0] standard.tv

It's a shame. I really like Nebula as a service and I pay for it, but it's missing some small features that I'm hoping they get to soon. (They're a small team.)

The content is great, though.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

Jim uses an interesting strategy to achieve ad-free status, though. He purposefully includes content from many copyright holders that default to claiming the entire video. Since apparently highlander rules apply, the system just won't play ads on his stuff.

The rules are complicated[0] and they say "If all valid claims monetize the video, revenue is divided by the number of claims except in special cases such as cover revshare and music."

So just having content from multiple copyright holders doesn't necessarily stop ads from playing. However, that policy also says "If one of the assets claiming a video has missing ownership information, the default policy action is Track (owner missing)." which "Allows video to be viewable on YouTube and tracks viewership, but does not serve ads against it."[1]

An alternative might just be to add some content at the end of the video which is not advertiser-friendly, which would demonetise the video while not annoying the viewers too much.

[0] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6300781?hl=en

[1] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6085494?hl=en

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

You just showed me that I can block ads on YouTube. I just tried it and so far it seems to be working great. Thank you!

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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"...and pretty much have their entire business on there..." This is what I don't get about YouTubers. They created a business with basically only one source of income. This is bad practice in every business book. I am a freelancer. If I only had one customer my business would be instantly over when they didn't hire me anymore. YouTubers put too much trust in an untrustworthy business partner.

> This is what I don't get about YouTubers. They created a business with basically only one source of income. More importantly, they also then decided to scam their source of income by getting money from other sources (e.g. Patreon) and are now acting surprised when their own data host isn't happy about not getting their cut of the revenue. Reminds of a scam that cinemas attempted in my state - because the distributo…

Did Google ever offer an alternate revshare plan?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

so you don't use ad blocker I see :/

They work today, but Google could fool them by embedding the ads in videos, I mean cutting a video and inserting the ad inside, not playing a separate segment, so that it can't be detected by the adblockers. But then video makers could fight back by using AI to compare it with the original without ads and distributing cue lists automatically downloadable by browsers extensions telling the player to skip from A to B to hide the ad. then Google would fight back again by making the ad embedding random at each play, so that cue lists wouldn't work anymore, or disabling skipping within the ad segment, and so on. It will never end.

It is pretty clear that Google is attempting to monetize everything down to the spaces between zeros and ones, changing their own rules when it suits them, and won't stop before anything. This is extremely unprofessional; I wouldn't rely on them for anything serious.

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