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Post by dang »

Covzire wrote: post #100

Let's be honest, the only people screaming for censorship are firmly on the left. Controlling "disinformation" is a dog whistle for censorship, hoping that average citizens don't realize what they're really after. We all know who is going to be the moderators in flagging "disinformation" and we all know which ideology they overwhelmingly favor. I'd sooner trust a pyromaniac as fire chief of my local county than I wou…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24781792.

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Post by sdenton4 »

remarkEon wrote: post #631
untog wrote: post #620

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could just as easily counter and ask why anyone would expect a Republican victory when Democrats did so well in the 2018 midterms. Previous result are only predictive to a point.

They did well in the House, but lost seats in the Senate. Midterm elections are an imperfect signal, like you're suggesting, but it's not true that the democrats won a landslide or something in 2018.

The Senate map for a given year can tilt towards one party or another; 2018 was a structurally bad year for the Senate Dems.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democrats-horrible-2018...

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Post by AI_WAIFU »

Karunamon wrote: post #451
jeremyjh wrote: post #436

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I agree they blundered here. They don't want to be hijacked by another "leaks" story days before the election but now the suppression of this has become the entire story, and its convinced a lot of people the story is true and dangerous to Biden. Even if the email is true I don't see how its dangerous and if the only media carrying the story are the NY Post and Fox it doesn't hurt Biden.

That's an angle I hadn't even considered, but I'm surprised Twitter didn't. SV social media companies, of all the organizations in the world , should understand the implications of a Streisanding. If they had just left it alone, maybe attached the standard "this might be false" disclaimer, it would likely have passed as yet another partisan thing , but now they've gone and infused it with a bunch of power it didn't h…

I think they got cocky with their grip on information and thought their algorithms would prevent the Streisand effect.

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Post by libraryatnight »

Tycho wrote: post #361

Crux of the issue is that everyone knows there’s a double standard. Why do they co-ordinate to block this story and not the countless other “unverified” scoops? Because it threatens a protected politician.

What other countless unverified scoops?

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Post by pyuser583 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #609
dahfizz wrote: post #594

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I'm curious why you seem so confident in a widespread democratic victory when the republicans did so well in 2016? EDIT: for those unaware, not only did the republican party take control of the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2016. They also made big gains in state elections. In fact, the republican party had a 'trifecta' (house, senate, and executive) in 25/50 states. It was a very significant shift in power: https…

Many polls are showing a Biden win is above 80% probability, the House is solidly Dem, and a possible sweep in the Senate. Make of that what you will. Its a fair point that polls missed in 2016. 2020 has kicked the hornet’s nest (rather, the last four years), voter turnout appears to be higher than previous years, and I’d bet an expensive bottle of bourbon current polls align close to what results will be (with model…

But isn’t American society becoming older, due to Boomers low birth rate?

Doesn’t that mean older generations have more influence?

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Post by whatever1 »

hyperdunc wrote: post #617
whatever1 wrote: post #599

Whatever it takes to get rid of a tyrant. The guy has repeatedly shown that he has no appreciation for the institutions, the unity of the nation, democracy or the election process itself. He will do whatever he can to stay in power. We should make sure he does not succeed.

Replace the word 'tyrant' with the name of almost any major political player and it remains relevant. The corruption runs far beyond any individual.

I don’t think that any other US political player comes even close to the dangerous rhetoric of Trump. Democrat, Republican, or independent. The attack on the election itself that he started should be the biggest red flag for the citizens that none of his rants are normal.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by toomuchtodo »

pyuser583 wrote: post #645
toomuchtodo wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many polls are showing a Biden win is above 80% probability, the House is solidly Dem, and a possible sweep in the Senate. Make of that what you will. Its a fair point that polls missed in 2016. 2020 has kicked the hornet’s nest (rather, the last four years), voter turnout appears to be higher than previous years, and I’d bet an expensive bottle of bourbon current polls align close to what results will be (with model…

But isn’t American society becoming older, due to Boomers low birth rate? Doesn’t that mean older generations have more influence?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-mille... (Gen Z, Millennials and Gen X outvoted older generations in 2018 midterms)

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/28/millennials... (Millennials overtake Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation)

Young voters outnumber older voters, but this is mutually exclusive from an aging populace and a declining birth rate. You can chalk it up to population momentum and previously higher levels of immigration. It does mean Millennials will hold on to their electorate influence longer though.

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Post by blisseyGo »

dang wrote: post #288
likeafox wrote: post #237

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I question if the National Review is really the best home for this story.

I also felt more comfortable with yahoo.com than with a politicized site like NR. The intention here is simply to be accurate and neutral to the extent possible. But it's the same article, so it doesn't make sense to pretend that it comes from a different source, besides which the HN guidelines say " Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter. " ( https:…

Yahoo was the one who published the Steele dossier misinformation 4 years ago. Why are they better?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

riffic wrote: post #601
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #525

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> the phone company was (historically) a monopoly Phone companies are natural monopolies on account of the cost of building out a physical network and network effects. Social media has similar dynamics. The only difference is there is no requisite physical layer.

Twitter and Facebook are not natural monopolies in the same way that Ma Bell was. I'm failing to see the similar dynamics you allude to. Is there a network effect? Sure. Did MySpace, Friendster, AOL, CompuServe etc have those first mover advantages as well? Where are they now?

> Did MySpace, Friendster, AOL, CompuServe etc have those first mover advantages as well?

They had the same first-mover advantages. They never achieved Facebook's scale and network advantage. In the early days, Ma Bell also faced competition.

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