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Post by philwelch »

fzeroracer wrote: post #609
darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

Looting private businesses and setting fires isn’t “self-defense”.

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Post by 12elephant »

gknoy wrote: post #615
12elephant wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is video of Twitter employees admitting there are on-going efforts to silence "shitty people" on the platform. It's quite clear who these "deplorables" or "shitty people" are. What is the most annoying about this, though, is the tweet they chose to "Fact Check". (I use quotation marks because "fact checking" by linking to CNN and WaPo is not fact-checking at all, rather an appeal to a different authority.) The…

> If I say mail-in votes will cause election fraud, you cannot prove or disprove that statement I'm not sure I believe that claim. I think that looking at past history of voting fraud shows pretty conclusively that _vote by mail_ fraud has always been a very low percentage. Sure, it's possible that _some_ fraud might happen, but looking at data from Oregon, it's happened two times in twenty years (_from my reading of…

> I think that looking at past history of voting fraud shows pretty conclusively that _vote by mail_ fraud has always been a very low percentage.

If fraud was committed successfully, it's not going to show up in the data. You won't know at all. It's like saying "there's no evidence of a cover-up". Well of course there isn't, that's the point.

I've heard plausible methodologies for carrying out mail-in vote fraud that would be undetectable. E.g. mail containing ballots being diverted/"lost". I can neither prove nor disprove this is happening though.

I agree that electronic voting is an even worse idea than mail-in voting.

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Post by factually »

I am so, so tired of everyone apply "conservative" to outright nonsense. We should say "republican" or "trumpian" instead.

There is nothing conservative in many of the far-right ideas, by any definition of the word. If the idea or opinion is:

1) Based on pure hate

2) Based on treating a protected class badly - you know, the whole reason we have class protections

3) Based on NOTHING AT ALL, no facts given, other than sometimes a turtles-all-the-way-down derivation of other crazy opinions, and sometimes with a "make it true" initiative bringing up the rear. Speculation is not a position. Speculation is not a position. SPECULATION IS NOT A POSITION!

those are NOT Conservative. Those are crazy. Especially #3, employed all the time by the current POTUS.

I personally believe the Conservative movement has actually been wildly successful over the last several decades, and the country has shifted significantly to the right.

Now, all that remains is the crazy. That is all the right has to differentiate itself, and they're going all in.

Anyway, TLDR: crazy is not Conservative, please use Trumpian or Republican if that fits. Also, speculation is not a position :)

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by whowhatwhy »

onemoresoop wrote: post #397
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #287

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I'm not actually against the idea, but arbitrary blocklists would accelerate bubbling people away from anyone who could possibly think differently from them, which has its own issues.

Radicalism and inciting to violence should be bubbled not amplified.

bubbling is radicalism

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Post by yedava »

_fq4v wrote: post #618
danso wrote: post #2

Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447... tweet text: > ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! Disclaimer text: > This Tweet…

Completely agree with trump here honestly. Looting private business is not a form of protest against the police or the state for that matter.

Really? People who steal should be shot?

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Post by sfkdjf9j3j »

annexrichmond wrote: post #640
miguelmota wrote: post #630

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It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want? edit: s/charged/arrested

That's not correct, none of the four officers involved have been charged yet.

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Post by weston »

annexrichmond wrote: post #640
miguelmota wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want? edit: s/charged/arrested

It should be noted that the police arrested a journalist from CNN faster than they arrested the guilty officer.

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Post by mschuster91 »

gameswithgo wrote: post #534
efitz wrote: post #521

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If most of the mistakes happen in one direction, then I would argue that there's some other mechanism at work than just "mistakes". Update: data https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... Update: admission https://www.vox.com/2018/9/14/17857622/twitter-liberal-emplo...

Maybe conservative america needs to appeal to people smart enough to start their own tech companies, so they can compete in the free market to do things the way they like.

They actually do, there is alt-right Twitter aka gab.ai, alt-right Youtube aka Bitchute, alt-right Facebook aka Vkontakte, a boatload of "bulletproof" hosters and domain registrars. They even have their own TV stations (OAN, parts of Fox News), radios and podcasts.

For just about anything you want the alt-right has their "free speech" alternatives. The thing they are whining about is that the reach of these alternatives is way, WAY lower than the reach of the companies/projects of the alt-right. Almost as if the free market actually works and people deliberately choose to not engage in platforms dominated by alt-right hate mongers...

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Post by baby »

annexrichmond wrote: post #640
miguelmota wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want? edit: s/charged/arrested

This is a nation wide issue and has been for centuries

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Post by anigbrowl »

darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

the policeman involved in the original incident should be investigated

Oh give it a rest. We saw him kill the man, he can sit a cell and prepare for his trial like any other killer. If you don't like what people int he media say find different commentators or stop listening to pundits altogether.

I am sick to the back teeth of people complaining about 'the mainstream media', when Fox News and Sinclair broadcasting are two of the biggest companies in TV.

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