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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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This comment has so much elitism in it I can smell the grey poupon from across the wire.

You're right. We're so much better off when a significant segment of the population believes that the Secretary of State is pimping out children from a pizza restaurant.

Correct. That has has fewer downsides than truth being decided for the public.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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> just like Fox News is an entertainment channel that covers newslike topics All TV news shows are that. For example, consider the cliche about the news business "if it bleeds, it leads" which is far older than Fox News.

Some are more that than others. I'm very tired of fallacies of composition.

Be careful that it's not just shows that seem to agree with one's particular personal biases.

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Well, the majority of the issues seem to stem from the 'pro-china' stance which, aside from one persons fumbling reply has no real basis. The journalist was a bit of a poison pill there asking an intentionally loaded question. The WHO doesn't recognise Taiwan because the U.N doesn't. Not because of China. Here's a bit of "Why" the WHO doesn't recognise Taiwan: https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/why-does-who-exclude-taiwan…

It also comes from the Absurdly laudatory praise that WHO was giving China in January about how they were setting standards for transparency and how their quick behavior had saved the world.

They were hardly unique in that.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/12208181153549230...

> China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!

Jan 24!

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

WHO is giving medical advice, not legal advice. There isn't a contradiction here; if, because of local conditions, local government has prescribed you to wear masks when you go shopping, it isn't because your local government is making a medical diagnosis about you. It's because they want to stop the spread and they can't know that you are healthy or not.

This isn't a hard call. Neither is restricting people promoting miracle cures that lead people to swallow fish antibiotics in the name of "free speech".

Big companies have a responsibility to fight misinformation. Letting the public "figure it out on their own" is simply social darwinism, and it's cruel.

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Taiwan told them about human-to-human transmission in December, and the WHO responded by repeating CCP propaganda verbatim in January saying there was no evidence of it. Note that at the time WHO had zero access to China, because of the cover-up ongoing.

If you read my post I'm exactly answering your point.

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Nope. The US just changed it’s official position to recognition of Taiwan as an independent entity, as part of the TAIPEI Act in response to all this.

The TAIPEI Act doesn't change the US's position on recognition as a country. It specifically says "the US should advocate for Taiwan’s membership in all international organisations in which statehood is not a requirement" Note the statehood is not a requirement thing. I think it would be great if Taiwan had observer status at WHO, and I think the TAIPEI Act should help towards this. But the point remains: Taiwan is a…

Section 1(a)(3):

"(3) Taiwan is a free, democratic, and prosperous nation of 23,000,000 people and an important contributor to peace and stability around the world."

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I'll take the fake news today just to protect speech that may be wrong today but is right tomorrow.

It's amazing how quickly people who benefited from free platforms think that people who defect to the other side only do so because they are weak minded and read some bad news.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

This is how all news media operated before the internet created mouthpieces for non-professionals. In addition to suppressing some inconvenient truths they filtered out crackpot ideas that have become a plague in modern times.

Preserving the status quo by functioning as both a high pass and low pass filter. For both better and worse.

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Thats why you shouldnt hear scientists for advice and use your brain. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If you wear a mask and doesnt have effect, nothing happens, if it does, thats a benefit, so you can only win by wearing one. You can be rational and completly dumb at the same time.

“If you wear a tinfoil hat and doesn’t have effect, nothing happens. If it does, that’s a benefit, so you can only win by wearing one.” Not disagreeing on masks, but your argument here is a real stinker.

Theres clearly a difference in the magnitude of probabilities between masks and tinfoil hats actually working, and we are not in a global electromagnetic disaster right now.

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They'll probably cull everything that doesn't earn them ad revenue, to minimize the fallout. The content will trend toward sanitized garbage and the viewers will start leaking to somewhere else.

This is all great news if you're building a new social project...

If, as t -> infinity, the fate of a video hosting service is getting classified as a publisher, why would a competitor turn out any differently?
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