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When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by nguoi »

arcturus17 wrote: post #234

I really don’t get the hate... I’m reading that in general UX is pretty good. I only have a Switch so haven’t been able to play RDR2 or AC Odissey... The solution seems perfect for me given the price point and I’m seriously considering picking it up. When I worked for Nintendo we broadly called the segment I’m in “lapsed gamer” and it’s actually a pretty big niche... What I read between the lines is that people are p…

>When I worked for Nintendo we broadly called the segment I’m in “lapsed gamer” and it’s actually a pretty big niche...

I'm interested in what you've said here. Not only does it describe me but, if Nintendo are tracking it, it explains why they're one of the few companies I would trust to continue making the kind of solid, single player experiences that I enjoyed when I wasn't 'lapsed'.

I have no interest in 'e-sports'ey online multiplayer because I don't want to invest time to be good enough to enjoy it. I don't want to invest in a game-as-a-service because I don't want to feel trapped in it.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by downerending »

40acres wrote: post #174

I understand the cynicism of this community to Stadia but implore you all to think a little broader. Stadia is different, with this product Google is trying something really innovative. For one, the fact that Stadia actually costs money should be a signal of Google's long term ambition here. Yes, Fiber also cost money but was bogged down by the hell that is infrastructure development. Stadia will require a substantia…

It's not just all of the products they've dropped in the past, it's also the cumulative day-to-day experience I've had with them overall. When their stuff works, it's great, but if anything goes wrong, one faces the impervious silent wall of Google's tech support, or rather complete lack thereof. The idea of trusting their compute cloud for a business service that truly has to be reliable seems insane.

They make great free toys that mostly work and make a lot of money doing so. I'm glad to use those toys for free, but I'm under no allusions that what often works will always work. That's not their forte.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by edu »

Angostura wrote: post #621
NotATroll wrote: post #385

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This is the thing I don't get. Who precisely is this concept even marketable to? People with high speed internet, that also can't afford a gaming console? But can afford a device capable of handling all of the inputs & playback of the video. So lets low ball and say a $140 chromebook. + the cost of the games. How many people is this? Genuinely.

Well, as a desktop Mac user, I'd be very interested. Of course its not available for Mac (yet).

Yes it is, you just need a Chrome browser!

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by nguoi »

gilrain wrote: post #420
tasty_freeze wrote: post #391

This is a grammatical nitpick, but I see it over and over and over. The title says "When Will Google Shutdown Stadia?" It should be "Shut Down", which is a verb phrase. A "Shutdown" is a noun, eg, "There will be a shutdown in March." Another common example of this: You need to log in. (long in == verb) What is your login. (login == noun)

Embrace descriptivism or be forever an annoyed curmudgeon.

I don't understand the internet's new obsession with descriptivism. Yes, it's English, in a circular-argument kind of way, but that doesn't make it good style.

The whole takeaway from it seems to be that self-described descriptivists intentionally use non-standard definitions of words then blame the other party for misunderstanding, making the writer fail at the primary goal of communication. And that is literally ridiculous.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by sipos »

lonelappde wrote: post #402
mmanfrin wrote: post #202

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Glass cost money, more than 10x what this cost, and that was not a signal of their long term ambition. The problem with Stadia is that it costs money, the service costs a monthly fee, and on top of it you have to buy the games. What happens to those games if you stop paying the fee? If you stop using Stadia? If Google deprecates Stadia like many are worried. I'll tell you: you lose the game. If I, conversely, buy the…

7 years later, Glass is still a successful product for its users.

Yes, all 7 of them are very happy with it.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by WorldMaker »

pytester wrote: post #603
WorldMaker wrote: post #406

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Picasa: Smug Mug/Flickr is rather highly valuated again today, now that they are free of the curse of Yahoo! Instagram and Snapchat are a part of this game now too. Google Code: GitHub sold to Microsoft for a good chunk of change. GitLab, Bitbucket, Source Hut, all seem to be doing fine. Hangouts: Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, WeChat, Facebook Portal, Matrix/Riot.im, iMessage, Skype is maybe back…

I'm not denying that the market exists. I'm denying that the product google launched in these cases was comparable to the competition. Google code, for instance, was SO inferior to github that comparing the two is actually kind of funny.

There were people that felt Google Code to be quite advanced for its time, with comparisons at the time more to SourceForge, Savannah, Trac, and some others that have past into the mists of time. It didn't keep up or maintain any of that "lead", but that just circles back around to the common aphorisms that Google loved big splashy launches and failed to incentivize steady maintenance or competition after a "product" launched.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by sipos »

laurentlb wrote: post #547
specialp wrote: post #316

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I suppose buying a $130 box that no longer works AT ALL because the cloud backing it and providing all of the functionality is gone isn't a reason to want longevity? It would be like buying a mobile phone locked to one network that fails. If Google were giving this away for free and charging monthly I'd agree. Welp service down, no more $10 a month from me, moving along.

The $130 box gives you a controller and a Chromecast Ultra. You can use both of the outside of Stadia. They are also optional: you'll be able to play on Stadia without the controller and without the Chromecast (e.g. on a computer with mouse and keyboard).

What else can you use the controller for? Is it a standard HID?

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by pfranz »

markstos wrote: post #636
thephyber wrote: post #579

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> Stack Overflow ... which licenses its content with CC by SA 4.0[1] and has a public API. Other licensing models of content will vary. [1] https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchan...

This is an important point. Someone else is allowed to use the StackOverflow content and likely would if StackOverflow was turned off.

I do think that is worth noting, but it is (mostly) separate from the original point. It doesn't matter if the copyright is open if the content disappears.

At least in the U.S., I don't think it's that relevant to the use-cases I've seen. IANAL, but in the 4-factor fair use test a place like Internet Archive rehosting the content to me easily clears 3 of them if the original host goes away.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by aagha »

iamsb wrote: post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

Your post reminds me of those occasional posts where an entrepreneur will post something like: I started a company and now Google has built a near exact copy. Something in the past the entrepreneur should have been worried about. Now, I agree with you: Sit back and wait for Google to pull it, and profit.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by sipos »

juped wrote: post #93
dopamean wrote: post #57

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Maybe I'm crazy but I've never thought google had a good product team. Has there ever been a coherent vision for their collection of products? Edit: just to be clear. I'm not saying google doesnt have good products. I use and enjoy lots of them but for a long time it has seemed like even google isn't sure how all their products fit together. Perhaps that leads to weird forays into territories that don't fit which the…

Has a Google product ever been good? - Search (was once good, now just "marginally better than Bing") - Reader (was good, the highest profile victim of Google Death Syndrome)

> - Search (was once good, now just "marginally better than Bing")

It isn't noticeable better than DuckDuckGo, which is a better alternative for privacy reasons.

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