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Re: iPad Pro

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This page makes it sound like the Apple Pencil and the foldable keyboard come in the box, when in fact they are sold separately and are very expensive. So on top of your £769 for the entry level 'Pro, the Pencil is an extra £119 and keyboard is £179, topping the whole package to £1047. Even more if you go for the 12" model.

People in the market for a device of this price are not usually price sensitive, especially to peripherals, so this isn't much of a surprise.

Also, I use an iPad Pro without a keyboard or pencil, so I saved a good 300 clams, and I am really happy with the rest of what I got.

Re: iPad Pro

#642

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

None of what I use a Mac for is available or practical on iOS. Atom, Git, bash, ssh, llvm, Python, R, PostreSQL, CouchDB, Docker, nginx, Node.js, homebrew, curl, wget, ffmpeg...

I’m typing this on an iPad now. I mainly use it for web surfing, Netflix, email and casual gaming.

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#643
For me this was magical. I love the smaller 12.9”. The size seems just right and I’m sure that’s the one I’ll be getting to replace my 15” MBP for everything portable like travel.

This looks like the perfect tablet and I’m not sure what else they could do to make it better going forward

Re: iPad Pro

#644
Sure it looks cool now, but how long until they nerf it and break it like they did the Ipad 1. I can't even use the app store anymore on my ipad1 because apple broke it. I'm certainly not going to buy this anytime soon.

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#645

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It's not impressive if it's not doing it with ideal sharpness in real-time, which it wasn't. Tiled zooming into arbitrarily large images is otherwise rather easy to do. Go plop the largest image you can find onto your nearest Android phone and it'll zoom & pan that image at 60fps with nary a stutter or issue. It will take a while for it to re-snap the sharpness as you zoom in, though, but so was the iPad Pro. How fas…

You think a many-layered PSD file is comparable to zooming a single image? That's like wondering why the source + instrumented dev environment uses so much more resources than its compiled, optimized binary. What a weird confusion to see on HN.

Of course, because it is. It's going to do a tiled render, likely at powers of 2, and all the heavy many-layer PSD stuff is completely asynchronous from the actual panning & zooming.

Or are you so naive you think that anything of significance is happening on or blocking the UI thread such that merely showing "smoothness" in any way reflects anything about the device's performance at actually doing the photoshop work?

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The biggest pain for me of lack of access to the underlying OS has turned out not to be any of my thousands of tiny gripes with the way the software works that I can't change (e.g. setting dns on the cell connection), but the lack of transparency and ability to debug basic processes. What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash? Why is my network failing? Who is that app talking to? My ma…

>What is the computer doing now? Why is it hanging? Why did that app crash? For what it's worth... On a computer, I'd look at log files. On an iPad, I'd plug it into my computer... then look at log files.

and then realize the closed app you are using have none.

Re: iPad Pro

#647

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

I hope iOS 13 will have mouse support for the iPad Pro. Only being able to touch the screen while using the iPad Pro in laptop mode feels really limiting.

apple: we won't give you touch screen laptops because touchscreens are garbage

also apple: here's a laptop with only touchscreen.

fan boys are going to have a field day to sell this one up. (edit: it already started with a workarounds for text input only. let's see how far it will go :)

Re: iPad Pro

#648
Away from work, I use my iPad for most things and only use my laptop for writing code. As famous hacker Kevin Mitnick says in his new book “The Art of Invisibility”, using locked down devices like iPads and Chromebooks provides the most safety.

I like the jump to USB-C and I am curious what the ‘docking’ experience is when the new iPad Pro is plugged into a large USB-C compatible monitor. This might make the developer experience very good and open the door to making something like the new iPad Pro in the future be the only computing device required. Add LTE and a data plan for mobility and traveling lite.

Re: iPad Pro

#649

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

None of what I use a Mac for is available or practical on iOS. Atom, Git, bash, ssh, llvm, Python, R, PostreSQL, CouchDB, Docker, nginx, Node.js, homebrew, curl, wget, ffmpeg... I’m typing this on an iPad now. I mainly use it for web surfing, Netflix, email and casual gaming.

All of that can be done in a remote VM. I use Coda + Shelly on an iPad pro and it's a pretty decent development experience. The real barrier is for (non-web) GUI development.

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Ugh, I hate the way Dell lies! That's obviously not a metaphor. Also, whenever journalists and commentators write about Dell screens as being edge to edge, years before Apple, they're not lies, they're metaphors. It only becomes a literal statement that is obviously a lie, when Apple uses it. /s To everyone downvoting me above, you can disagree with the idea 'edge to edge' it's a proper metaphor to use for an iPad di…

No matter what it's not a metaphor. You might want to look up what that word actually means.

"a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable."
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