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iPhones are hard to use

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Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by ppetty »

I think Apple could do a better job onboarding people to iPhones. For example they could check to see if you’re interested certain aspects and queue up tutorials that drive extracting settings that would help; but at the end of the day the iPhone does so much more than it did in 2007 & the 2007 version was so much more capable than all preceding phones. The biggest challenge Apple faces is figuring out how to explain thousands of features … and that’s before you install any 3rd party apps.

Steve Jobs called it “an iPod, a phone and an internet communicator” … that was hard to swallow (or learn), but today that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

If you’re fortunate enough to understand the majority of the features you shouldn’t be embarrassed by the ability to help someone figure out the myriad features and details …

Are iPhones hard to use: absolutely not … unless your expectations are off the charts and you think a device that complex should require no effort.

That said, it would be funny if Apple eventually launches a device called iPhone that only makes phone calls.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by new_here »

dkonofalski wrote: post #640
lern_too_spel wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not potential: that's the reporting granulariy provided by the App Store. So you got orders of magnitude fewer users infected on Google Play devices (both your links are for non Google Play Chinese phones). Those half billion infected users were infected for a long time before Apple was finally notified and removed the apps from the store (but not from users' phones) in 48 hours.

>XcodeGhost potentially affects more than 500 million iOS users That's cited directly from the article you posted. You're full of it and you know it.

Check the username. I’m on your side. Don’t waste your time trying to refute this bullshit POV.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by lern_too_spel »

dkonofalski wrote: post #640
lern_too_spel wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not potential: that's the reporting granulariy provided by the App Store. So you got orders of magnitude fewer users infected on Google Play devices (both your links are for non Google Play Chinese phones). Those half billion infected users were infected for a long time before Apple was finally notified and removed the apps from the store (but not from users' phones) in 48 hours.

>XcodeGhost potentially affects more than 500 million iOS users That's cited directly from the article you posted. You're full of it and you know it.

That article got that number from what the App Store reports, just as I said. This is the exact same way you would get estimates of affected users on Google Play devices, which is so much less that you haven't even found one article for Google Play infected users. (My guess is that you have found them but didn't bother to post because of the multiple orders of magnitude difference.)

Let's do the worst case analysis of my claim. Let's pretend that the users of all the iOS malware are a strict subset of iOS WeChat users. Let's pretend also that the users affected by each Google Play malware are disjoint. Compare the cardinalities of the resulting sets, and I'll still have orders of magnitude to spare.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by lern_too_spel »

new_here wrote: post #639
lern_too_spel wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not potential: that's the reporting granulariy provided by the App Store. So you got orders of magnitude fewer users infected on Google Play devices (both your links are for non Google Play Chinese phones). Those half billion infected users were infected for a long time before Apple was finally notified and removed the apps from the store (but not from users' phones) in 48 hours.

Since we're talking orders of magnitude... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit#Bullshit_asymmetry_pr...

Yes, Apple marketing does put out a lot of bullshit, but as I have shown, any thinking person can see right through it without much effort.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by Green_man »

Bud wrote: post #630
Green_man wrote: post #170

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is that what putting usb ports on the back of an iMac is? function, period, paragraph, and publication?

Where would you suggest the ports be located on a desktop computer whose sides are not thick enough to accommodate any ports? Perhaps they should be located in the middle of the screen? ;)

well, for the imac, the thickness is more than thick enough to handle usb ports, they just taper it off at the edge so certain three quarters shots make it look thinner than it is. there's also a bezel on the front that could be accommodating. i think the bottom of the screen is an obvious choice, or even integrated into the stand. I understand why they don't do any of these things, and I wouldn't put usb ports in the front of an imac either (its very pretty and sleek). but, a theoretical function first machine would certainly have usb ports right in the front. my monitor has usb hub functionality, but they're all in the back, or behind a plastic shroud on the bottom. I don't get it- its an ugly dell monitor anyways, that i bought for the resolution, why not make it uglier and more useful? so yes, its not just apple, and at least they don't seem to have those useless plastic shrouds over cables. but the imac is not a function first machine, not from a cooling perspective, and certainly not from an I/O perspective.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by Green_man »

coldtea wrote: post #370
Green_man wrote: post #170

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is that what putting usb ports on the back of an iMac is? function, period, paragraph, and publication?

> is that what putting usb ports on the back of an iMac is? Yes, why not? Tons of PC laptops had it that way as well, even industrial-style all-function PCs.

well, older laptops had top mounted hinges that allowed for a lot of I/O real estate on the back. that allowed them to work well on a tight desk, with power, usb hub, whatever coming out the back. for a portable machine, i think most accessible things should be on the sides, and the newer hinges on most laptops that are mounted to the back of the chassis mean that back mounted ports aren't an option. the obvious function first choice is side mounted ports, with a bottom dock with power redundancy and everything else. best of both worlds. i don't know if older laptops are the relevant comparison point to a new imac all in one desktop though. I understand why they are on the back, but its clearly not a function first decision (putting them on the front would be way more functional.

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by Naushad »

Completely agree with the objective usability points mentioned in this.

This is what Bruce Tognazzini and Don Norman both of whom were first few interface designers are Apple, also wrote the Human Interface Guidelines. https://www.theverge.com/2015/11/16/9743996/apple-designer-i...

https://www.fastcompany.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-desi...

and also later Don Norman independently

Re: iPhones are hard to use

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Post by daxelrod »

danaris wrote: post #481
daxelrod wrote: post #448

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You can do this from Control Center. 3D-Touch the widget group with airplane mode and the antenna toggles in it, and it will expand to include a Personal Hotspot control. Of course, this is completely undiscoverable...

Personal Hotspot is not the same thing as mobile data...I suppose it's possible it's what the parent meant, but unless you meant to say that there was a switch to turn cellular data access for the phone itself on and off there, I don't think that's going to solve the stated problem.

Mea culpa, you’re totally right about the distinction, I wasn’t reading clearly.
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