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Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV

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Post by vidarh »

brandonmenc wrote: post #639
vidarh wrote: post #621

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> You need 2400 calories a day to maintain weight No, his sources estimates 2400 calories a day. You're right to question if he's consumed more, but taking his claims at face value, they match my own experience and many, many anecdotes I've seen over the year to indicate that advice of maintenance levels around that range are way too high for most people. > and were (off the cuff) burning close to 1000 a day from run…

I don't disagree with you, and I agree the numbers are slightly off (more like 2200 per day required and 800 per day burned, according to a number of calculators.) But even still, at 220 lbs, your estimate of 1500 calories a day should not cause weight gain.

As I said, at about the same weight when I didn't have much muscle, 2000 calories less ~500 spent on exercise each day would have caused weight gain for me.

And did, for that matter until I'd adjusted my intake further down. To notice much in terms of a loss I had to go below about 1600kcal before factoring in the exercise. I believe my maintenance level at the time was ~1800kcal.

If you're largely sedentary outside of your exercise, you can end up burning exceedingly little.

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Post by Karunamon »

DanBC wrote: post #604
Karunamon wrote: post #471

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Other food manufacturers have been around for a lot longer.

So what? Plenty of new companies are capable of producing food in similar or greater volumes than Soylent is without any recalls, why has Soylent had more than one recall? Soylent aren't even doing the production; they're sub-contracting it out to existing companies.

So, mass production is hard, supply chains are hard, shit happens. A recall of ~700 boxes isn't enough to damn the whole company.

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Post by Karunamon »

greenshackle2 wrote: post #640
eljimmy wrote: post #526

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It's the other way around. Higher GI carbs will absorb quicker and cause spikes in blood sugar levels. Maltodextrin is considered a complex carb but it breaks down quickly into glucose so the impact on your blood sugar levels is on par with dextrose. Every time someone talks about Soylent I always bring up the main ingredient, Malto, it's such a terrible substitute for real complex carbs (oats, brown rice, etc.). You…

I just researched it, it's actually worse, the GI of maltodextrin is like 105-130, that's higher than plain sugar or dextrose. I didn't know that... thanks, I've actually switched my subscription to Biolent, the carbs in it come from oat and buckwheat flour, it has more fibers and no fast carbs as far as I can tell. I'm Canadian so it's only slightly more expensive for me.

Apparently, I got the high/low backwards, but keep in mind the GI of a serving of Soylent is 60 for the powder, 49 for the drink. You can't just take the index of one ingredient alone and peg the whole product to that when the other ingredients influence absorption. Soylent's glycemic load over time is pretty modest.

https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/212769503-Glycemic...

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Post by tedmiston »

mod wrote: post #577
tedmiston wrote: post #507

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I'm not so sure — alternatives at a comparable price are already on the market. I could make it myself and save more but it's not worth the tradeoff of time and inconvenience to save $1–2. Personally my price sensitivity for it is pretty low. At $2–3 per meal, it's cheaper than any other meals besides breakfast throughout the week.

There's a lot of DIY recipes and some are supposedly just as complete and a whole lot cheaper: https://www.completefoods.co/diy/recipes/brets-soylent-oat-r...

Do they solve the shelf life problem though?

This is the biggest pain point I experienced with the powder version of Soylent — it's inconvenient that the taste goes off and it starts going bad after just 2–3 days whereas the bottles are good for months or more.

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Post by elif »

atomical wrote: post #635
elif wrote: post #320

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It was a sarcastic retort that your perspective is egocentric extrapolation based upon averages. Akin to looking at the highest GDP/capita and deciding that poverty does not exist.

I still don't get it. How is my comment egocentric? e·go·cen·tric ˌēɡōˈsentrik/ adjective 1. thinking only of oneself, without regard for the feelings or desires of others; self-centered.

Sorry maybe a poor word choice. By "egocentric extrapolation" I meant applying the statistics on an individual basis, centered around an individual, which is egocentric more in the Greek sense than in common usage.

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Post by nradov »

briantakita wrote: post #144
johnfn wrote: post #58

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> easily outplayed because you switched to a different drink already. Not really. Soylent is much cheaper than Ample, and that's a major plus for the cost conscious (which is a lot of people!) As for the other ones - honestly mostly marketing I'd imagine. I've never heard of any product billed as a "nutritionally complete" meal. SlimFast to me sounds like a dieting product (as do weight watcher shakes), which isn't w…

I lived on Garden of Life's Raw Organic Meal + Green Vibrance + Alkaline Water for a while. https://www.gardenoflife.com/content/product/why-choose-raw-... https://www.vibranthealth.com/green-vibrance/

I hope you realize that alkaline water is a total scam.

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Post by namlem »

rubber_duck wrote: post #148
johnfn wrote: post #5

Soylent gets a lot of hate (I'm looking forward to skipping out on this thread before the inevitable negative comments from people who assume that Soylent consumers will eat nothing but Soylent for the rest of their lives), but to me, it's solved a large problem in my life: what to eat when I'm hungry but I don't have enough time to prepare a full meal. It can happen every now and then when I'm rushing around, and so…

>what to eat when I'm hungry but I don't have enough time to prepare a full meal. Protein powder (whey or soy pick based on lactose tolerance) + powdered oats + whatever for flavoring (eg. cocoa powder and coconut flour) in a shaker bottle - add water/whatever milk - shake and consume. Throw in fiber supplement if you don't get enough fiber like psyllium husks. Waaay cheaper than soylent if you buy smart (bulk), scal…

You're just describing DIY soylent. I've seen recipes very similar to yours on the official DIY site.

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Post by adrianmonk »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #264
ohstopitu wrote: post #112

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What's wrong with those microwavable stuff (like noodles, and others)? I mean it's not healthy, but if it's once in a while, it's cheaper and imo tastes better!

> What's wrong with those microwavable stuff? I'm guessing you and many other commenters haven't hit the age where heart disease, high blood pressure, and pre-diabetes start raising their ugly heads. All of those conditions are depressingly common in the Western world and require medication with various side effects to treat. Each one of those microwaveable meals, though tasty and convenient, takes you one step close…

Not all microwave dinners are beer-battered steak fries with gravy and nacho cheese. There are some that have reasonably healthy ingredients, like lean meat and actual vegetables. If you want, you can go all the way and get some that have whole grains, kale, quinoa, etc. in them.

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Post by goldenkey »

greenshackle2 wrote: post #636
goldenkey wrote: post #578

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Soy protein has phytoestrogens and lead and whatnot. Proteins from plants grown in metal heavy soil are not a good source for majority of protein supply for a human being.

Ok. Soy has isoflavones, which are kinda shaped like estrogens, and bind to estrogen receptors by chance cause they have similar structures, but not as strongly as real estrogen, because they're not sex hormones to begin with. Cow milk has actual estrogen. Because cows are mammals. With actual sex hormones. Which binds strongly to estrogen receptors, because that's what they're for. I know which one I'm going with.

Are you sure about this issue with normal milk? I cannot find much about it although the soy estrogen research is all out there.

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

DanBC wrote: post #357
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #296

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Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. Soylent markets their product as ALL you have to eat, if you so desire. That could have a very different outcome on someone's health. The OP was giving his experiences with it.

> Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. I wish people would stop saying this. There are many products, some are Ensure brands, that can be used as sole source nutrition products. They don't market themselves like that to the general public because they're big companies with lots of lawyers who are cautious about that kind of claim.

What Ensure products are meant to be all you ever eat?
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