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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by MBCook »

freddyc wrote: post #630
sly010 wrote: post #159

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You probably haven't used a Google branded Android phone in the last 3-4 years. Project Fi + Nexus 5X + Stock Android is as good as it gets in integration and UX. The other day I lost my phone so I typed "where is my phone" into google. It showed me immediately. How many passwords do you have to type and licences to accept to do that on your Apple cloud? I agree the article doesn't explain it very well, but the botto…

> How many passwords do you have to type and licences to accept to do that on your Apple cloud? I made the switch to Nexus last year for work, but my wife is still a devoted iPhone user and recently upgraded to the 7. As I was setting it up for her I was shocked at how poor the UX was and the number of times the iPhone asked for a password (in some cases asking for the same password multiple times). Just a week earli…

The setup process is pretty widely known as an issue these days as they keep adding new screens for every new feature. It could use some cleanup.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by MBCook »

euxneks wrote: post #597
mikestew wrote: post #13

And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

I'm not sure what about the iPhone needs to be killed? As far as I know it's not got the majority market share? If they're talking about the ecosystem where iPhone is definitely making a killing, then they need to work on their software more than their hardware.

It's the single best selling phone, but that's in part because Samsung has 12 options that compete with it so naturally no individual model has the same numbers.

Probably more of a perception/mindshare thing.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by jkmcf »

Steko wrote: post #638
atourgates wrote: post #493

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> WebOS was pretty tacky though an interesting OS design - actually implemented better by LG on their SmartTVs. I've got to stop you there. WebOS was far ahead of its time, and especially considered in the context of a small startup going against established players, was brilliant. It offered in some ways better and more intuitive usability than iOS, along with a great app development ecosystem and philosophy. Palm's…

> WebOS was far ahead of its time I see this any time WebOS is mentioned but this makes WebOS sound a lot more innovative than it was. WebOS is widely lauded for two things: (1) the card application interface and (2) the accompanying physics/gestures, especially swipe from edge. Now these are great and appropriately lauded but that is a short list that really pales compared to a similar list of things the iPhone OS h…

My wife had a Palm Pre with WebOS when I had an iPhone 3G. The Pre was pure crap, but the OS was very interesting and intuitive. I rarely had to help her with it. She's had iPhones since then, which can frustrate her due to how it handles settings, and she hates changes -- this week it's the removal of swipe to unlock :)

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by ridgeguy »

Keyframe wrote: post #557
_cbsz wrote: post #383

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Really? do they all use the same CPU socket? no updates required to motherboard? EFI? Apple's custom SMC firmware? power management? kernel work? etc.

If only Apple had resources to do that. They must be struggling.

Isn't "beleagured" the word you're looking for?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by diyorgasms »

acchow wrote: post #293
rayiner wrote: post #24

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It's synecdoche.

I didn't realize that's what synecdoche meant. Adds some depth to the title of the movie "Synecdoche, New York"

I'm not sure depth is the thing that movie lacks. But tack on some more, sure, why not?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by killerdhmo »

Eridrus wrote: post #509
lumenwrites wrote: post #331

It blows my mind that there's not a single positive top level comment yet. Seriously, guys, what's up with the culture of entitlement and complaining? We're hackers, let's get fucking excited about the new cool gadgets! This phone is awesome . How about, before nitpicking and criticizing, we take a moment to appreciate and celebrate the new technology developed by our colleagues?

The Nexus 5 was amazing, the 5X was acceptable, this.... makes me want another option. Maybe you care about the camera, but I barely use mine except as a scanner replacement when sending documents. All of the interesting announcements were about everything except the hardware, which IMO was extremely boring, and they've discontinued their mid-range line of phones so it's not even clear that you can get the software o…

Except, mobile phone photography is one of the fastest growing use cases: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/arts/international/photos-...

Even look at Flickr's top camera usage: https://www.flickr.com/cameras (which has a selection bias towards people who take and upload certain pictures to Flickr)

Think about the number of other places images are taken (and shared!) Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. etc. I think you might be in the minority when it comes to images.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by themacguffinman »

hyperbovine wrote: post #75
JshWright wrote: post #48

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It's going to be the only phone in replacement of the 6P and 5X. It seems they aren't interested in mid-range devices anymore.

That's crazy. $650 buy-in for what is for most people a somewhat risky wireless service proposition. Given their past track record of 86ing products this can't bode well.

I'm not sure what's so risky about it. Project Fi just uses T-Mobile and Sprint, it's not a separate network.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by 1_2__3 »

lumenwrites wrote: post #331

It blows my mind that there's not a single positive top level comment yet. Seriously, guys, what's up with the culture of entitlement and complaining? We're hackers, let's get fucking excited about the new cool gadgets! This phone is awesome . How about, before nitpicking and criticizing, we take a moment to appreciate and celebrate the new technology developed by our colleagues?

Oh so HN exists to help companies market their gadgets?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by 1_2__3 »

rayalez wrote: post #402
zepto wrote: post #344

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Because it's not new technology.

Oh, come on! A new good looking android phone with a cool camera, vr, and super advanced AI assistant is not good enough for you? How revolutionary was the last project that you have developed? What qualifies as "new technology" by your high standards? Do you expect it to be able to mine uranium while giving you a blowjob? I'm pretty sure it'll be able to do the later thing when new cool VR apps come around =) Creati…

It looks like every other apple phone, the camera quality is table stakes, come off with that "super advanced" ridiculous hyperbole (it's just Google Now rebranded), and... wait that was all? I'm supposed to be leaping around in excitement over that?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by rcheu »

mikestew wrote: post #13

And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

I actually prefer modern Samsung variants of Android over Google (aside from the not-updating quickly thing). I really prefer S Planner over Google Calendar, and the Samsung Keyboard is superior to the Google Keyboard too (Samsung's runs much faster).
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