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Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by biztos »

romanovcode wrote: post #456
biztos wrote: post #247

I find it interesting that so many people here are unhappy with the change. Sure, prices will go up for a lot of organizations, but is $9/worker/month really a lot to pay for all the stuff GitHub offers? At Bay Area prices isn't that about 5 minutes of developer pay per month? For independent use it seems like a very positive change, in fact I'm guessing it's a direct challenge to GitLab. I was considering moving my…

>At Bay Area prices isn't that about 5 minutes of developer pay per month? Do you seriously believe that programmers everywhere in the world are making the same money as ones at Bay Area?

No. I myself do not. But it seemed like a relevant metric on this forum.

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by biztos »

eightbit wrote: post #365
biztos wrote: post #247

I find it interesting that so many people here are unhappy with the change. Sure, prices will go up for a lot of organizations, but is $9/worker/month really a lot to pay for all the stuff GitHub offers? At Bay Area prices isn't that about 5 minutes of developer pay per month? For independent use it seems like a very positive change, in fact I'm guessing it's a direct challenge to GitLab. I was considering moving my…

> but is $9/worker/month really a lot to pay for all the stuff GitHub offers? You make it sound like they're curing cancer. What does GitHub really offer above and beyond the other providers? As an example, their PR reviewing systems sucks balls. It chokes on larger PRs (250 files!? Really?). Also, with files which have been essentially replaced, the diff can become so large that GitHub won't even show it, and since…

I'd definitely pay more than $9 for a cure to cancer.

But since I also make my living writing software, I don't think it's wrong to charge a fair price for it.

If you think they're doing such a bad job, you can always use the competition. As with iOS.

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by biztos »

vthallam wrote: post #380
biztos wrote: post #247

I find it interesting that so many people here are unhappy with the change. Sure, prices will go up for a lot of organizations, but is $9/worker/month really a lot to pay for all the stuff GitHub offers? At Bay Area prices isn't that about 5 minutes of developer pay per month? For independent use it seems like a very positive change, in fact I'm guessing it's a direct challenge to GitLab. I was considering moving my…

But you do know that it's not bay area only right? Millions of people outside US use it and the price difference is a lot to bear for some of them.

Yes, of course. I'm in Europe myself. However if you're a company trying to make money I see $9/mo as a fair price for what GitHub offers, pretty much anywhere.

And if it's really a lot of money then there is plenty of free software that can solve the same set of problems, you just have to install/configure/maintain/modify it yourself. Which should be a reasonable option if $9/person/month is a lot of money where you are.

(I get that for some people obtaining the $9 is difficult because they work for highly dysfunctional organizations, but that still doesn't make it an unreasonable fee.)

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by z3t4 »

jssjr wrote: post #553
z3t4 wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read an article not long ago that Github had to spin up three physical machines, just to handle one customer. Although it was an extreme example. Compared to slack, who could probably have a million users one a single machine, making it almost zero marginal cost per new user. While a user for Github means buying more hardware and a notable marginal cost. If you for example are a reseller of commodity goods, you can…

I think you're referring to the GitHub Engineering blog post [1] about our git storage tier. We [2] store your code on at least 3 servers, which is an improvement in many ways from our previous storage architecture. There are a lot of servers [3] powering things but not the millions it would require to give every customer three dedicated machines. Developing efficient solutions to problems is a requirement (and a fun…

It was another post about someone using Github to host "packages".

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by z3t4 »

lox wrote: post #528
z3t4 wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read an article not long ago that Github had to spin up three physical machines, just to handle one customer. Although it was an extreme example. Compared to slack, who could probably have a million users one a single machine, making it almost zero marginal cost per new user. While a user for Github means buying more hardware and a notable marginal cost. If you for example are a reseller of commodity goods, you can…

I'm not sure what your point is. Your initial comment seemed to indicate that you thought Github was increasing their pricing because they were struggling to pay for the underlying infrastructure, or that the per-customer cost was too high for the current margins. This is almost certainly not the case, they have simply realized that compared to similar services they are leaving a staggering amount of money on the tab…

You are correct. But if that is not the case, I think they are using the wrong strategy. Having such large margins will flood the market with competitors, lowering both market share and margins in the long run.

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by romanovcode »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #174
romanovcode wrote: post #83

I see absolutely no reason why one would pay GitHub for private repositories when there is Bitbucket, or much better alternative to GitHub altogether - GitLab.

When people mention GitLab I always wonder if you mean the public hosted GitLab, or running your own GitLab.

Public GitLab is amazing, especially built-in CI integration, however it is not as fast as Github (page loadspeeds)

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by Revisor »

Why don't more people use Assembla? We've used it for years and it has so many more features than Github. Tickets, milestones, time tracking, standup, wiki, unlimited repos with protected-branch merge rights, file sharing, discussions...

There is no free plan but the pricing is fair in my opinion: https://www.assembla.com/plans

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by fps »

mjlee wrote: post #564
fps wrote: post #530

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the software is AGPLv3'd, and run by hundreds of educational organizations around the world. Those organizations typically contribute changes back via Github. Non-employees don't contribute to our private repositories. We gain quite a bit from maintaining a large open source community, but it's not "free labor."

From the announcement: "These users do not fill a seat: Outside collaborators with access to only public repositories "

Ah, I didn't see that part of the announcement at all. That makes the new pricing much closer to what we were paying before. Thanks for pointing it out!

Re: Introducing unlimited private repositories

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Post by dano »

puddintane wrote: post #447
sytse wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're very welcome to switch to GitLab.com, we are free forever https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/#why-gitlab-com-will-be-... and it can import directly from GitHub.

GitLab CE (Community Edition is Free) and is truly great we use it in our own internal software development process. However for a bigger enterprise they require more functionality here is a comparison of the differences between the Community and Enterprise Editions. https://about.gitlab.com/features/#compare Several pricing options for EE but essentially the base cost is $39 /year per user. https://about.gitlab.com/…

Is gitlab still using MySQL or its variants behind the scenes?
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